BC doesn't issue BS7671 cert?

Just been looking at the latest Part P:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf

Can't cut and paste from that doc (it's secured, how lame!), but top of page 11, first para 1.27, says that for DIY work, BC won't issue the BS cert, only a completion cert.

Given that the completion cert will only be given once they have tested the system (at their expense - para 1.26), is this actually a problem, particularly when I come to sell?

If so, it kind of implies that you can't do DIY electrics if you ever want to sell your home!

Marcos

A BS7671 certificate is only just about worth the paper it's printed on..

you don't need a BS7671 certificate to sell your house.. but you do need to show that any building work or improvements were done to building standards.. which is the certificate that they give you..

Why do you need the installation certificate if you have a completion certificate? The fact you have a completion certificate means it had to be to councils satisfaction.

I would agree if someone is responsible for health and safety they should inspect at all stages and there must be under health and safety law a written record of this.

However the IET regulations are not law and an inspector may consider the job is safe even though it does not comply with IET regulations. For those in the Electrical trade we have to list any non compliance and it does from time to time cause problems where we know it is safe but we have to list what would seem to be faults.

If I was being nice to LABC I would say it is so it does not produce confusion but in reality more likely because they don't do their job. How many builders from hell programs have you watched where the job was passed by building control but was not up to scratch or where it had reached a fairly advanced stage before building control saw there was something wrong?

County Councils vary a lot and with child protection the council officials are quickly taken to task for any mistakes but with building control they seem to take the money and run.

My parents had a builder from hell and rest of family had to put it right. The LABC was involved and they paid one visit as the builders did their runner and told us we would have to submit an installation certificate which I did making it plain what the limitations of my work was and what had been done by builder.

Missing lintels, damaged under floor heating, removed RCD, fans not working, drains suspect, and yet we never got any further visits I delivered the report to council offices and a completion cert arrived in post. They never checked if any of the work was done.

I think the TV should do a new series "Councils from Hell" there's loads of material to make it.

ericmark said:

...I delivered the report to council offices and a completion cert arrived in post. They never checked if any of the work was done.

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At last!
A clear example of light touch public administration in action.
Bring it on…

ericmark said:

Why do you need the installation certificate if you have a completion certificate?

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Hey, that was my question

But glad to know that you don't, and that the BC cert should be sufficient for the conveyancing solicitors!

ericmark said:

For those in the Electrical trade we have to list any non compliance and it does from time to time cause problems where we know it is safe but we have to list what would seem to be faults.

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Maybe the paperwork should make it clearer to the layman that a code 4 does not constitute a "fault" which needs to be "corrected," do you think?

Codes are used on a PIR, not an EIC

marcosscriven said:

Can't cut and paste from that doc

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1.27 A building control body will not issue a
BS 7671 installation certificate (as these can be
issued only by those carrying out the work), but
only a Building Regulations completion certificate
(the local authority) or a final certificate (an
approved inspector).

(it's secured, how lame!),

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Spark123 said:

Codes are used on a PIR, not an EIC

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I'd taken the comment I quoted before to mean on being called to inspect an existing system rather than installing a new one.

But for a new install there's still the space on the EIC to list deviations from BS7671.

And with a full copy of Acrobat, or any other PDF editor you can remove the watermark: