ICE told to get the eff out

noseall · 2026-01-11T20:48:08+0000

MNW67 said:
Yes, they are definitely federal law enforcement. But the bit that I found most interesting is the limit on their powers over US citizens.

Passport checkers - with a penchant for murder.

MNW67 · 2026-01-11T20:49:12+0000

noseall said:
ICE officers do not have the same power as state or local police. While they are federal law enforcement officers, their authority is specialized and subject to different legal constraints.

Key Differences in Authority (as of 2026)

Subject Matter Jurisdiction: ICE agents enforce federal immigration and customs laws. Unlike local police, they do not have the authority to enforce state or local laws, such as traffic violations (e.g., speeding or DUIs) or common state crimes like residential burglary.

Authority Over Citizens: ICE has very limited authority over U.S. citizens. They may only detain a citizen in rare cases, such as if the individual is assaulting an officer or interfering with a lawful arrest.

I've just been getting up to speed on this. I was very surprised at how limited their powers are. What power did they actually have to try to detain Renee. On the face of it, none. I wonder whether more information will come out. This aspect isn't getting much of a mention in the media.

noseall · 2026-01-11T20:54:17+0000

MNW67 said:
What power did they actually have to try to detain Renee.

They didn't. That's why HWM is embarrassed and refuses to even acknowledge my question.

On the other hand, the murder victim had every right to steer her car away from a very menacing threat of several armed masked men, attempting to enter her vehicle.

MNW67 · 2026-01-11T21:00:46+0000

noseall said:
They didn't. That's why HWM is embarrassed and refuses to even acknowledge my question.

On the other hand, the murder victim had every right to steer her car away from a very menacing threat of several armed masked men, attempting to enter her vehicle.

It is a really important and interesting point. ICE have no power to arrest US citizens. But they can detain them temporarily if they are obstructing their work, such as blocking in an ICE vehicle or trying to physically prevent an arrest. First, they have to give orders for the obstruction to cease, and then if those orders are not followed they can temporarily detain a citizen. In Renee's case, it is not clear whether any sort of obstruction actually happened.

carmanmemoranda · 2026-01-11T21:06:22+0000

Highway Man said:
Thank you, you have restored my faith in common sense. Carman thinks they are not federal law enforcement but you as a legal eagle agrees with me. Oh forgot to add a bloody lefty too

Read and understand what he wrote

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:16:21+0000

pete01 said:
What you on about im not bitter and twisted

I don't know, when was this?

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:16:58+0000

noseall said:
They didn't. That's why HWM is embarrassed and refuses to even acknowledge my question.

On the other hand, the murder victim had every right to steer her car away from a very menacing threat of several armed masked men, attempting to enter her vehicle.

No I think you are childish and immature

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:17:56+0000

noseall said:
He's hoping for another poster to bail him out.

bail me out on what? Do you agree that the statement of federal law enforcement is wrong too.. I am sure you do.

Harry Bloomfield · 2026-01-11T21:18:11+0000

noseall said:
They may only detain a citizen in rare cases, such as if the individual is assaulting an officer or interfering with a lawful arrest.

Which is exactly what they were doing..

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:19:40+0000

carmanmemoranda said:
Hwm has googled and didn't read or understand.

Getting it all embarrassing again

Think that is you don't you... I have yet again proved you should stick to oil filters as your knowledge stops with that. Next time you want to try to look like you know something, try actually knowing. Loser

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:20:43+0000

carmanmemoranda said:
Read and understand what he wrote

|Yes made you look pretty silly too didn't he.

noseall · 2026-01-11T21:21:08+0000

Harry Bloomfield said:
Which is exactly what they were doing..

They? Who were doing what?

She was sat in her car. What was she doing exactly that necessitated her arrest?

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:21:40+0000

carmanmemoranda said:
Hwm has googled and didn't read or understand.

Getting it all embarrassing again

Why you trying to include Nosenowt into your embarrassment? address me not another clown.

MNW67 · 2026-01-11T21:21:49+0000

Harry Bloomfield said:
Which is exactly what they were doing..

What were they doing, though? I have been trying to find out. How were they either assaulting an officer or interfering with an arrest. The worst thing they seem to have done is block one lane of a two lane one way street.

Highway Man · 2026-01-11T21:23:16+0000

MNW67 said:
What were they doing, though? I have been trying to find out. How were they either assaulting an officer or interfering with an arrest. The worst thing they seem to have done is block one lane of a two lane one way street.

They were heckling them all day, a bit like you are doing on here with your lefty mob. Plus they were blocking and interfering with their work trying to be clever. Not too good an. idea. Obstructing their work is an offence,

ICE told to get the eff out

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