ICE told to get the eff out

Highway Man said:

Not a cat in hells chance, one in the chest would more than likely be fatal.

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JohnD said:

It's always best to keep medical aid away from severely injured people, is it?

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diy_fun_uk said:

I have mixed feelings about this ICE stuff in the States. Yes it can be argued that it's good to see a country getting tough on illegal immigrants, however I wonder if what we're seeing is almost going from one extreme to the other.

Trump was keen to reiterate during his Davos speech that ICE is almost exclusively going after hardened criminals and wrong 'uns in general. According to Trump, ICE isn't going after people they know are living their illegally but are living decent ordinary lives e.g. working in the service industry and the like. MMmmm, I'm not convinced some of the stories we're seeing back that up.

When it comes to the UK, as we've discussed on here many times, yes we need much tougher immigration controls, legal, illegal, small boats, the whole lot. And we need more effective removal processes. However, would I want to see groups of armed men with their faces covered combing various areas in various towns and cities? No.

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motorbiking said:

headshots 90% fatal,
Dying people.

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JohnD said:

Perhaps highwayman will tell us ICE agents are decent chaps and wouldn't do such things, like he tries when denying atrocities by Israelis.

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Justin Passing said:

I forget which of the EU politicians said it,

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Highway Man said:

There will always be the bad apple in the cart. You cannot tar them all with the same brush, they are doing a tough job that is hard enough without people picking on them for everything they do wrong. Mistakes will be made, that is just human nature John.

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motorbiking said:

The US rarely take a soft approach to law enforcement. Tough prison sentences, high percentage of the population locked up, lots of people shot and killed each year, many unarmed. Miscarriages of justice, locked up without trial.

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JohnD said:

Criminals pardoned because Trump likes them.

Sex offenders moved from a secure jail to a luxury country club because they have dirt on Trump.

Civil servants prosecuted because they do their jobs, and not Trump's bidding.

No, that is NOT business as usual.

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JohnD said:

No sniper shoots a toddler twice by accident.

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motorbiking said:

I’m fairly sure no ICE officers are shooting kids in the head double tap style.

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Highway Man said:

Not according to John. These rogue IDF snipers are everywhere.

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