ICE told to get the eff out

MNW67 · 25 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
they did not know he was disarmed, they knew he had at least 1 hand gun and two clips

They had taken his only gun away. To answer your original question, no he was not armed when they shot him.

motorbiking said:
in handcuffs or pinned down?

Pinned down by between five and seven officers. Totally immobilised on his knees with his arms restrained.

motorbiking said:
the officials claim he had no ID. The permit to carry is ID, so does that mean he was not carrying his permit to carry?

Almost everything else they have said so far is a lie.

motorbiking · 25 Jan 2026

MNW67 said:
They had taken his only gun away. To answer your original question, no he was not armed when they shot him.

how did they know that?

MNW67 said:
Pinned down by between five and seven officers. Totally immobilised on his knees with his arms restrained.

Is there a picture/still?

MNW67 said:
Almost everything else they have said so far is a lie.

but if true, that changes everything.

MNW67 · 25 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
but if true, that changes everything.

Only with hindsight

motorbiking said:
how did they know that?

Are you suggesting that it was OK to kill him, just in case he had another gun.

motorbiking said:
Is there a picture/still?

Yes, there are quite a few good ones now online.

MNW67 · 25 Jan 2026

This is the moment when the officer in the grey top removes the gun from the victim's holster. The victim is clearly immobilised on his knees.

JP_ · 25 Jan 2026

Highway Man said:
So you may want to live in a lawless society and have everyone walking around with guns threatening people including law enforcement officers, I don't want that, I prefer to live within the law where the law protects me.

But that's exactly what's not happening in America today.

motorbiking · 25 Jan 2026

Having watched a video, I think this might be the excessive force example @MNW67 has been looking for - timing of the shots. I think you have your "execution".

There is some suggestion online that the first shot was accidental.

MNW67 · 25 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
Having watched a video, I think this might be the excessive force example @MNW67 has been looking for - timing of the shots. I think you have your "execution".

There is some suggestion online that the first shot was accidental.

That seems most likely now. Does that change things. It looks to me like the other agents were startled by an accidental shot and just started firing madly at the victim. Would that make it less of an 'execution'.

motorbiking · 25 Jan 2026

There is a shot, a second shot a pause and 3-5 more.

I think the 3-5 more are a problem

MNW67 · 25 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
There is a shot, a second shot a pause and 3-5 more.

I think the 3-5 more are a problem

I think there's actually a few more a bit later, just to make sure that he is definitely dead. Eleven shots in total, they say.

JP_ · 25 Jan 2026

The face of the terrorist

festive · 25 Jan 2026

JP_ said:
The face of the terrorist

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Indeed was watching him reading the last rights to a serviceman killed in action.

Shameful what is going on out there. I felt the last incident borderline, but this is just wrong. These ICE agents should be locked up. I completely disagree with the idiots bouncing off cars trying to get 'run over' and chucking ice or snow at authorities they should be arrested. But to be shot in the head for doing what?

We all know that actual reasons behind all of this, it's all about the voters in Democratic states.

However i do agree with Trump on his imigration policy.

ellal · 25 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
The video I have watched shows a person interfering, getting sprayed, trying to stop someone else being apprehended and then getting taken down and resisting every step of the way

Yep, you must have been watching a different video

motorbiking said:
In his defence, while I have no experience of it, I imagine a face full of pepper spray would make you like that.

So you believe that law enforcement agencies/state militia use pepper spray to cause the victim to become violent?

So that they can then execute them?

Funny that, since spray/tasers are promoted as effective 'non lethal' alternatives!

diy_fun_uk · 25 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
The video I have watched shows a person interfering, getting sprayed, trying to stop someone else being apprehended and then getting taken down and resisting every step of the way - In his defence, while I have no experience of it, I imagine a face full of pepper spray would make you like that.

There are very conflicting reports about how this played out. Some are asserting his weapon was never drawn. Still, at least we have ICE body cam footage to see the reality. Oh wait ...

motorbiking · 25 Jan 2026

There was certainly a scuffle to relieve him of his fire arm and there is no question he resisted and interfered with the ICE officer's pursuit of the woman.

Some reports say 9 shots were fired. the first was less than half a second after the gun was taken. but the last 3+ there was quite a pause.

No investigation it seems - so this will go to 4th amendment civil rights claim - excessive force.

JP_ · 25 Jan 2026

ICE told to get the eff out

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