ICE told to get the eff out

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I read that if he wasn't carrying identification and a permit, his 'lawful carry' becomes 'unlawful', however there seems to be mixed stories about the ID with some reports saying he didn't have 'accessible ID' which is a little ambiguous.
Other opinions out there are that by violently resisting arrest, the 'lawful carry' again becomes 'unlawful'.

It is not ambiguous. It is meaningless nonsense. They are admitting that he had ID. It has turned out that everything DHS and ICE said was a lie. Even the White House are now refusing to repeat any of those lies.
 
It is not ambiguous. It is meaningless nonsense. They are admitting that he had ID. It has turned out that everything DHS and ICE said was a lie. Even the White House are now refusing to repeat any of those lies.
We do not know if he was compliant. It’s that simple.
 
We do not know if he was compliant. It’s that simple.

About five minutes before the shooting, there is that incident you mention, where he passively accepts being pushed in the chest.

Then just before the shooting incident, we see him filming from a distance. He only comes over to help a woman who has been violently shoved to the floor. Trying to help that woman seems to have been his only mistake. A certain type of man doesn't like that sort of thing.
 
I read that if he wasn't carrying identification and a permit, his 'lawful carry' becomes 'unlawful', however there seems to be mixed stories about the ID with some reports saying he didn't have 'accessible ID' which is a little ambiguous.
Other opinions out there are that by violently resisting arrest, the 'lawful carry' again becomes 'unlawful'.

Victim blaming. (y)
 
I meant that the phrase 'no accessible ID' is meaningless nonsense. It is an acceptance that he actually did have ID.

@fillyboy

I might be wrong on that. It does seem to be a technical term used in the USA when police and medics etc. can't find an ID. I still think it is likely they are lying, though.
 
One of the main Republican candidates for governor of Minnesota has withdrawn:

Chris Madel, a defense lawyer who had been running for governor of Minnesota as a Republican, said he had decided to end his campaign because he had become outraged by the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown in Minneapolis.

The operation “has departed so far from the stated goals that it is simply a disaster,” Mr. Madel said in an interview on Monday, two days after federal agents shot and killed Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen, in the city. “People are living in fear, and it needs to end,” Mr. Madel said.

Mr. Madel, who had voiced support for stronger immigration enforcement when he started his campaign, said he found federal agents to be acting lawlessly in Minnesota.

 
He didn't resist. He let the agent push him in the chest and was completely passive, letting himself be pushed back about twenty feet. The only time he interfered was later on, in order to try to help a woman who had been shoved to the floor.

He didn't get in the way. He was filming from a distance and the officer approached him and started to shove him.
He was told to get off the road twice. He didn’t obey the commands and thought he would just continue to be a pain. He had his warnings and then became violent and resisting arrest. What do you expect to happen after that. He wasn’t as friendly and nice towards ice doing their job. People will have to learn to do as they are told.
 
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