ICE told to get the eff out

MNW67 said:

It is also because some of them simply don't understand that illegal immigration has a much longer history and is much more accepted in the US than it is here. Most people over there accept the grand bargain. Illegal immigrants will come to the USA, work hard, obey the law, do the jobs that Americans won't, and generally keep their heads down. In return they have a much better life than in their home countries, and any children born in the USA will automatically become US citizens. Most illegal immigrants pay tax and contribute to social security. Even government agencies accept that is the case, as noted above in the official Congressional report.

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motorbiking said:

It’s such great business hiring illegals in the US. They work hard, keep their head down. It’s not like you get fined or your business reputation trashed or barred from contracts or anything. Oh wait. The fines and penalties are huge.

https://cis.org/Report/Hiring-Illegals-Crime#:~:text=Employer%20sanctions%20were%20finally%20enacted,to%20whom%20a%20violation%20...

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-denver-levies-over-8-million-fines-local-businesses-employment-violations

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motorbiking said:

It’s such great business hiring illegals in the US. They work hard, keep their head down.

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JohnD said:

As long as you're in a Trumpist state.

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motorbiking said:

desperate irrelevance

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• Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.
• Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.
• More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
• At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).
• Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
• In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.
• Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
• Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities

noseall said:

I noticed in MBK's desperate deflective and irrelevant waffling, there's no mention of the very fruitful migrant situation down in Texas and Florida. Denver? Let me guess - blue?

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JohnD said:

Both of Colorado's current U.S. senators are Democrats

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King Billy said:

In referring to UK's asylum seekers, seeking asylum negates any crime of illegal entry.
After waiting for 12 months asylum seekers can work.

The type of illegal immigrants that are untraceable that you refer to, are the visa stay-overs, the tourist visa holders who arrive legally, but then claim asylum, or the ones who overstay after their work/study visa expires, or the ones who come in totally undetected. That leaves those who arrived by boat, who claim asylum, and are processed. The government knows exactly where they are.

Which ones are you referring to?

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noseall said:

Naturally.

All MBK has succeeded in doing is reinforcing the importance of undocumented migrants. If the risks are so great, and yet there are so many continuing to live and work and pay taxes amongst the population, then it just goes to show how valuable they are.

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motorbiking said:

irrelevant waffle

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motorbiking said:

Perhaps you can explain how an illegal immigrant with no right to work, pay taxes, acquire health insurance etc. can live, pay bills and become a useful member of society?

I’ll wait.

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• Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.
• Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.
• More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
• At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).
• Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
• In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.
• Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
• Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities