Not if you want to reform criminals. Housing then away from friends and family is correlated with worse reoffending stats.
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If you look at the details of their policy - they are only considering a certain category of long term prisoners. Additionally f2f visitation is very low among these offenders.
If people can go to Turkey to get their teeth n boobs done, then surely this is something worth looking at.
When the first IT projects were outsourced everyone said it wouldn't work. Now UK programmers hardly get a look in.
I don't care in the slightest what they do or don't do just as long as they're not in the UK.
If the government of their country of origin doesn't care about the welfare of their people by releasing them or whatever then that is not our concern.
But if you're talking about shipping out UK-based prisoners then we do have a long-term interest. But sadly our prisons are doing next to nothing to rehabilitate anyway, so any outsourced prisons would need to be really terrible to be worse.
From memory they are indeed much worse for private prisons. They've got a negative incentive to reform prisoners and they're the lowest bidder so cut where they can.
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slight cross conversation here. There are two policies being discussed.
Deport Foreign Criminals back home to free up space
Off-Shore Criminals of certain categories who are serving long sentences to reduce cost
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Do you have a link to hand? I've found them quoting 10,000 which is 1 in 8
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or you could read it:
Britain Is Lawless | Reform UK
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rather than make it up.
That doesn't reference the overseas prisoners category though, unless I'm still missing it. Are we talking people in remand for five years or more? 10, 20?
But your reference to the army doing the work: generally they're not allowed to do that stuff by law iirc. National emergencies are an exception but this doesn't really count.
Also the overseas deals are unlikely to be 'agile', the only other examples have been fixed cost multi year contracts that need full utilisation to meet cost projections.
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10k is roughly the same number as the number of people sentenced for 10 years or more, (including IPP which is a stain on British justice).
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My guess is that's who they're targeting.
There will be no UK prisoners shipped abroad. It's pie-in-the-sky nonsense, designed to provoke the gormless into breathing out.
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I think it has potential.
It will be dropped from the manifesto along with leaving the Convention on Torture etc.
I think it's an idea that looks feasible on paper but will fail in reality.
They claim they'll be dynamic places but what country is going to agree to build and staff a prison to UK standards if they're not going to fill it. We'd end up paying for the building and committing to a minimum charge and then spend two years working out it's not legal.
How many extra suicides, extra violence, Extra re-offending are we happy with? How much is it really going to save? It'll take a parliamentary term just to get started on building the new facilities so when it gets scrapped we'll be in the same place as the Rwanda deal.
Even the last Tory government looked at it and decided it wasn't good value for money.
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