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Thanks for your replies, I had to have a go at this on Friday, Bathroom 1 of 3 :evil: I had some of those cheapie screwfix ones and also a brand new bosch one as the guy in the video had and tbh the bosch one hardly even marked the tiles but the cheapie ones did the job with alot of...

have you checked your water pressure and flow?

why do you want a cylinder? you was talking about being energy efficient, this will be less efficient. If your happy with current setup then leave alone