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    Becoming a plumber

    Seriously. PS only way to be good @ install is to be fast ,is it not Not really, the money is in installs, if you can just do one system a week, you should get a grand in for that, that's 48 grand a year with 4 weeks holidays, i would kill for that, servicing and breakdowns doesn't pay these...
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    Ideal Classic wont fire

    I had a similar problem on one of these last month. It ended up being a stuck pump valve (lower one) in the end, however a local gas eng friend had been out to one the week before this and it was the solenoid on the gas valve. You can't just change the solenoid, so you have to change the whole...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    GasManGaz from Sheffield, you don't work at Powerminster at Bradford do you?
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    That's why i thought i'd ask your opinions first before i get a new valve on monday. Fans ok, pumps now ok and it fires up and stays lit for 20 secs.
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    Left at about 2pm, didn't check it to be honest. I was upstairs trying to get the water circulating in the new pump. Was getting the customer to switch it on and off downstairs in the kitchen as he was hovering around. Maybe the water is circulating, there are small amounts there but nothing...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    This is what i was told by a friend who used to comment on here a few years ago, not seen him lately (Andy Strachan from Ossett, Wakefield). This is why he said it was the gasvalve, as he has just changed one last week, i said to him 'i'm having problems with an ideal classic' and he said to me...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    He has stated on this or the other topic he started that the pipes are hot up to the pump. I've not stated that anywhere. pipes are all cold, not enough time for them to get warm in 20 secs.
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    if ya turn the stat on the boiler up to full does the pipework around the boiler get mad hot or just warm? norm wen its not circulating it would bang a bit Boiler stat is on full and no banging noise, boiler just cuts out after about 20 secs on full heat.
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    Not that familiar with Y plans so wouldn't know which pipe to check and i don't have a magnet anyway as mentioned, but this is why i was up in the loft as i thought maybe a blockage/or airlock, all pipes are lagged though and are internal. Was bloody cold up here last week though. I will try the...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    It is lighting and firing up then stays lit (burner) for about 20 secs then cuts out. Could be cos water isn't circulating or could be a faulty gas valve, or maybe something else?
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    Ideal Classic ff40 fires up for about 20secs then cuts out?

    Does this mean jezzy that you changed the pump only to find that the boiler is still behaving the same. YES. So,it could have been or still is? a defective Gas valve. Why did you drain down if as you say the pump valves are fine to isolate the pump? I,m at a loss here I didn't drain down...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    How would you know they opened up ok unless you tried them without the pump on. Pump valves will seem to open ok on the screw or if your lucky on the spindle but will be actually shut tight. Best course of action would be to drain down and change these!! To answer your question yes the boiler...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    If you have no water in the pump then leave the GV alone for now. Did you change the pump valves when you changed the pump? If not start here as they are terrible for sticking closed even though they look open from the outside. No i didn't change the pump valves but they are not old and...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    Why dont you test out the Gas valve then? How do i do that? it fires up for about 20secs then cuts out. Was told by local engineer that it's the solenoid that sticks and you can't buy it separately, so you have to buy a new gas valve. That means waiting till monday now.
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    If a magnet sticks does that mean it's blocked or it's not blocked? Don't have a magnet anyway, pump valves are open though. Both tanks are full and water is coming through all the taps, hot and cold.
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    Have been fannying around with the pump for the last hour or so. It doesn't seem like the water is getting through the pump and i thought that that would make the boiler go out on the overheat stat. How can i get the water coming back through? I've done it manually with a screwdriver on the...
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    Ideal Classic ff40 problem

    Just posted this in the main forum also. Just changed the pump as it was ****'d but the boiler is still doing the same thing, it fires up for about 20 secs and then cuts out? Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? Thanks in advance.
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    Ideal Classic ff40 fires up for about 20secs then cuts out?

    I have already changed the pump as this wasn't turning/seized solid, but boiler still behaving the same. Stays lit for about 20 secs then cuts out. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem is?
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    Help needed with fault diagnosis -Ultimate 50FF

    you put The boiler lights fine, the main burner flame is very small .. aprox 15mm This could be the solenoid though, so i'd get an RGI in to be sure. Not sure if you can buy a solenoid on it's own though, it comes with the new gas valve. I had a similar problem on a Worcester 240 and was in...
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    Any chance you could email me this info too Steve? I'm in Wakefield and used to work for UU at...

    Any chance you could email me this info too Steve? I'm in Wakefield and used to work for UU at Elland. I was talking to an engineer a few weeks ago in a citroen dispatch with UU on the van, when i was there we had Transits and Vivaros. He mentioned the smart meter changeover but didn't know when...
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