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Thanks mods for tolerating my use of the "Software" thread as a stand-in for communicating shopping lists. The staff at my email provider have been unable to sort out the infinite loading loop problem that has started ever since they upgraded their system, so I guess it's down to me to fix it...

Thanks to all for your comprehensive, informative and insightful replies. I feel much the wiser. Cheers.

That's interesting if true. As well as the logical inconsistency you raise wrt roofers fitting gas-related equipment, I am reminded of the roofers I saw on a recent development, hopping around open rafters, hurling tiles at each other, without a safety harness or bar of scaff to be seen ... :roll:

You may laugh, but there's nothing funny about ladders and hotels .... ... then again :lol:

I can see that. Do the liner fitters need to be corgi? I can imagine there being corgi guys who don't like the thought of ladders, in which case scaff would increase your pool of contractors, hence perhaps giving one more leverage on price. Was told scaff cost £200 a day, but that was a while...

Never had scaff in the past (gas boiler ages ago, flame-effect maybe 4 years ago). Now a neighbour has had scaff erected to change her flu liner. Is it really necessary, or would the usual ladder do?

Hi, I'm hoping somebody here can identify a small plastic part incorporated into most (all?) so-called 'friction stay hinges'. I have a top hung UPVC window incorporating a rather large such hinge that an angry child swung on, causing a snapping of the part highlighted in the picture. The part...

High GW, Facing very similar issues to you. In addition, almost 20 years ago, some idiot of a plumber put five 3/4" holes in the space of just 12" along one of the 4"x2" "binders" (binders? :lol:) so, like you, I am looking to upgrade the bracing / binding / hanging of joists. Did you settle...

So you don't get to decide how it looks, just how to make it happen? That's the weirdest client / contractor relationship I've ever heard of. And costly too! :lol:

Ah-ha! That would fit more with the experience of a mate who reckoned such a beam would indeed be (proper) heavy. Those are interesting figures as they deviate vastly from the C16 data I have seen in at least two places. And that is odd because timber people are fond of saying density is...

Good grief! Times have sure changed. I had no idea "manual" work had become so light-weight.

"Sources" suggest the density of C16 is ~370Kg/m3 The cubic metreage of the 4800 x 250 x 75 beam is 0.090m3 "Therefore" the beam should have a mass of 370 * 0.09 = 33.3Kg .... yet my timber supplier reckons it's too heavy to lift. Where am I going wrong?

:lol: :lol: :lol: And now I'm sure somebody will remind us that the linked document is actually anything but an Irish creation, but rather the work of colonial oppressors, and that we can take our Regs and span tables, for all the good they did holding up the floor at the Brighton...

Wut? I guess you mean Northern Irish (still a part of the UK unless I'm much mistaken!). Here's the intro: "General This Technical Booklet has been prepared by the Department of Finance and Personnel and provides for certain methods and standards of building which, if followed, will...

Span Tables : It'll cost you £17.50 from TRADA, or get it free here: Department of Finance and Personnel (yeah, that makes perfect sense!): http://www.dfpni.gov.uk/d.pdf If mods wanna add this link to the "useful information" sticky, feel free.

lorreal claims to be from India, so maybe he just has a very poor grasp of english, but looking at the content, it reads more like a poorly edited wikipedia page than a conversation... ... which is tempting me to suggest "he" might actually be an "it". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatterbot

I'm doing that mythical five minute job : loft insulation. Trouble is I've noticed some of the hangers/binders in my 1960's bungalow are a tad skinny: on a 4.5x4.5m span ceiling (onto supporting walls), the 100x50x4500mm, 400mm centres joists are being hung off just 2 100x50x4500mm binders...

I think people generally bury their heads in the sand until a problem becomes manifest. I concur with all that, and I'd add that the inadequacy of ceiling strength as a means of flooring support of any kind goes beyond the fink truss means of construction to which you might have alluded...

I feel like Citizen Smith sat behind the desk in No.10 Downing St. All reved up and nothing to rail against! Is this normal?