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Wow thanks a lot crank39! Its going to be more of a pain to remove them than I expected. Typical new build mentality taking shortcuts to save time while causing someone a few years down the line a giant headache.

Hi, I've watched a few videos on YouTube, showing that usually the removal is done by uncovering some hidden screw holes around the inside of the frame where the screws are which go through into the masonry. However I can't see how to find these on my UPVC windows. Does anyone know how to...

Because of the space mice m8

Yes it is advise you moron! If I had big heavy weight in my loft which I was worried about I'd immediately check if what had been done was: 1. against reg 2. even if not come to arrangement with installer if possible 3. reinforce it myself. I gave advise on all 3. 1. I said it probably...

Ok, well I gave advice: 1. find out if what was done was against regs - if it was then that's a no-brainer - go back to the fitter and say 'this is wrong' 2. try to come to some arrangement even if it isn't 3. Work around, e.g. reinforce from below. Cost effective solution. What is the problem?

Yeah but: Plumber looking at other plumber's work 'shocking' Plumber looking at same work done by them or their company - it's fine.

Need to see a 3D picture or description of it in cluing Z axis. it It's not going to affect plaster 1.2cm away. Whether it affects the door frame depends on what its made of. The main criterion is will convection currents provide effective heating from that placement.

It's only this particular sub-forum 'plumbing and central heating' which is like this folks, don't be put off. To the OP - unfortunately, unless it's against regulations (which the experts on this site are incapable of answering), you have no legal comeback. You might be able to to say 'its...

Maybe I exaggerated but the pipes support it to some extent. Still, all the original poster needs to know is whether he has any comeback legally against the installer.

same way a professional fighter can make weight and suddenly lose 5lb by resting his hands on stretched out towel held by 2 other people.

If you install something against regulations the customer has a legal right to demand recompense and will win a legal case. Are you going to argue the difference between legal and lawful and criminal vs civil law with me on a plumbing forum?

Just tell the OP whether he has any comeback (legal recourse) against the installer for installing it on chipboard. I have already weighed in and said it probably is allowed (no legal recourse) because they often do it in new builds. IS IT ALLOWED OR NOT? You paint your self as the experts...

All you have to do is talk sense to troll the idiots on this forum. What exactly do you expect the OP to do if you believe it's unsafe but its not against regulations/illegal? Should he phone up the installer and say "I think this is unsafe?". Even if the installer can reply its not against...

Look guys, anyone with a Y chromosome can look at an installation and see if it's ok or not. We can estimate the floor quality, resilience to water and other factors. It may be ok on chipboard or may not be. The only answer the OP can make any use of is it legal or not, to see if he has any...

Plumbers - bless em.

Jesus, some really thick people on this forum. Did I say it was an acceptable situation to have a cylinder needing to be supported by the pipes attached to it or that it would last long like this? No I didn't, I said that's the job of the floor, not the pipes, so you 3 commenting about this...

Well the fact that they put them on chipboard floors in new build houses may give you some comfort. With mine, it is the green water resistant chipboard though. I'm not worried about mine at all, the house it nearly 15 years old and the board underneath it is fine. I may have been more...

While the chipboard itself needs to be able to support the total weight of the cylinder when full, don't forget that its also supported by all the pipes coming off it. It's not their job, but if the chipboard underneath my cylinder was completely removed, I doubt it would even move immediately.

My unvented cylinder is also on chipboard and its been like that since the house was built (2003). Albeit, it's not in the loft, its in the 'basement'. What are you concerned about? the weight?

Just tell her that its nuclear and they don't run on gas anymore because its too dangerous.