A Revolution

[pjholybloke]

I have often wondered whether "England" has missed out in terms of radical social evolution by virtue of never having "experienced" a "commoner" inspired revolution.

I have also often wondered whether this is indicative proof of a rare and naturally tolerant, well balanced society not prone to volatile shouty expression, or more a result of fatalistic antipathy in the face of increasingly well-organised control and oppression from "The Authorities".

Whatd'yathink?

 

[solo]

I concur. Next question please.

 

[JohnD]

It's becase the Lord Mayor of London stuck his sword into the unarmed Wat Tyler and murdered him in response to his percieved impertinence

It is notable that he did this after the king had promised to address the peasants' grievances

An example of the violence and treachery of the untrustworthy ruling classes.

 

[Shutpa]

I have often wondered whether "England" has missed out in terms of radical social evolution by virtue of never having "experienced" a "commoner" inspired revolution.

I have also often wondered whether this is indicative proof of a rare and naturally tolerant, well balanced society not prone to volatile shouty expression, or more a result of fatalistic antipathy in the face of increasingly well-organised control and oppression from "The Authorities".

Whatd'yathink?

I think that you have stumbled across some thing which sounds intellectual but which you really dont understand and posted it here to impress. I also think that you got the title wrong, (Softus is a revelation NOT a revolution). Finally, are you Softus?

 

[David P]

My god you might have a point there...

but then again.
I'm sure I remember that at least one commoner was involved in the English Civil War, the Swing Riots, the Peterloo and cable street masacres, The diggers, the Luddites, The American lands, not to mention the peasants revolt (as above) or even the suffragette movement.

 

[libby lou lou]

Was softus born then ?

 

[Deluks]

Was softus born then ?

Yeh, but back then he posted under the name 'Oliver C'

 

[Shutpa]

Was softus born then ?

You mean invented!

 

[libby lou lou]

I have often wondered whether "England" has missed out in terms of radical social evolution by virtue of never having "experienced" a "commoner" inspired revolution.

I have also often wondered whether this is indicative proof of a rare and naturally tolerant, well balanced society not prone to volatile shouty expression, or more a result of fatalistic antipathy in the face of increasingly well-organised control and oppression from "The Authorities".

Whatd'yathink?

Read your post again, how many times do you really wonder? do you ever wonder why,? or wonder why not ? or wonder about what you wonder about, if not, why,? it makes me wonder,sorry!

 

[pjholybloke]

I think that you have stumbled across some thing which sounds intellectual but which you really dont understand and posted it here to impress. I also think that you got the title wrong, (Softus is a revelation NOT a revolution). Finally, are you Softus?

I didn't stumble across it, it came out of my head.

It doesn't sound like anything, I wrote it.

Quite clearly I understand the questions, it's answers/enlightenment/dialogue I'm seeking.

I feel no need to impress anyone.

I didn't get the title wrong, it's hyphenated, a conjunction not a statement.

I find Softus, challenging and as a result interesting.

No, I'm not.

 

[pjholybloke]

Read your post again, how many times do you really wonder? do you ever wonder why,? or wonder why not ? or wonder about what you wonder about, if not, why,? it makes me wonder,sorry!

Wander along then.

 

[pjholybloke]

My god you might have a point there...

but then again.
I'm sure I remember that at least one commoner was involved in the English Civil War, the Swing Riots, the Peterloo and cable street masacres, The diggers, the Luddites, The American lands, not to mention the peasants revolt (as above) or even the suffragette movement.

Well, commoners as opposed to royalty, peers of the realm, landed gentry etc. But never a wholesale plebian uprising, a few serfs with pitchforks on occassions, but at no time a cohesive and widespread effort from the "common ones" to exert the undeniable influence of mass protest.

 

[Shutpa]

I find Softus, challenging and as a result interesting.

No, I'm not.

You must be! But in the off-chance that you're not, it's really good to read something that is not abusive or defamatory.

 

[Nige F]

P J Priestly ......P J Proby Jack Cade

 

[pjholybloke]

P J Priestly ......P J Proby Jack Cade

Priestley? No idea. Proby? serial trolley ripping - Que Signife? Cade? Half-a**ed example of how localised insurrections have consistently failed to gain popular support, and thus consistently resulted in a total loss of momentum before any serious challenge to authority could be mounted.

Incidentally, Wikipedia has one page on English Revolutionaries with just the one revolutionary who turns out to be Irish anyway! Irish Revolutionaries cover 16 pages - go-an yers! Russia boasts a total of 80! They probably measure their history in revolutions per minute.

I guess we just ain't got it in us.