Advice on tanking

[kjacko]

Ok, so i did a search for 'tanking' and choose the option to search for the exact phrase. All i got were results about hot water tanks.
That's one crappy search engine fail btw.

So, here goes, sorry if its been asked and answered a gazillion times, but if the forum came into the 21st century then i woudn't be typing this lot. The search engine is so damned archaic.

Aaanyway,
putting in a 1st floor en suite, are there different methods of tanking or preparing a wall for a bath/shower setup?
On existing painted walls is there a liquid form of tanking?
On new stud walls do i use aquapanels?
We will probably tile the walls as well.
Do we just need to tank the walls affected by the bath/shower whether they're tiled or not?

Thanks for any advice offered.

 

[HERTS P&D]

Tank the walls with an aqua panel that is in the 'wet area' then tile from floor to ceiling.

Andy

 

[ALEC1]

tanking is what happens underground for basements thats why, hardly relevant to plumbing!

 

[Nige F]

Tank the walls with an aqua panel that is in the 'wet area' then tile from floor to ceiling.

Andy

You`re an old tanker OP google classi seal - that`ll take care of the seal @ the tray under the tiling

 

[Terry lambert]

BAL do a paintable tanking with a mesh reinforcement called WP1, it's good gear.

They sell it at tops tiles.

I used to do wet rooms years ago and this never failed if applied correctly.
There may be other products on the market, as I said I havnt done this for years

 

[kjacko]

Thanks fellas,
yeah sorry if i put it in the wrong forum, i originally was going to add to some plumbing queries into it, but changed my mind.
There won't be a shower tray, it will be a thermo shower buried into the tiled wall and we will be stood in a shower/bath (wider at one end).
The floor will be a decent quality vinyl.
Can tiles go straight onto the aquapanels, or do they need pva'ing first?

Also the family bathroom has tiles that we want to replace. However, ripping them off the internal stud will likely destroy the wall. So we may have to cover them.
Any advice on what to be aware of when covering existing tiles please? ie. weight of wall?
Currently they come up to the level of the door arcs anyway, so if we do cover with new tiles, i'll replace the arcs and skirting anyway.

 

[Karis]

Can tiles go straight onto the aquapanels, or do they need pva'ing first?

Yes you can tile straight onto the Aquapanel, avoid tile grout lines coinciding with board joints. BAL WP1 is a good choice if your looking for an easy to use liquid tanking membrane. Try the Tiling Forum in future

Never use standard PVA as a tile primer, it's unsuitable, remains water soluble & your tiles may fall off if used in a wet area. If priming is required, use an acrylic primer only but always follow the adhesive manufacturer’s instructions.

Also the family bathroom has tiles that we want to replace. However, ripping them off the internal stud will likely destroy the wall. So we may have to cover them. Any advice on what to be aware of when covering existing tiles please? ie. weight of wall? Currently they come up to the level of the door arcs anyway, so if we do cover with new tiles, i'll replace the arcs and skirting anyway.

What are the walls stud, partition/plasterboard, dot & dab plasterboard or brick & plaster? With plasterboard you should always reckon on replacing it as it most likely won't survive. Use moisture resistant plasterboard or waterproof tile backer board in wet areas. You can tile on tile but you need to use the correct materials & even then it can be problematic but it’s a bodge job really. The tiling materials you use will depend on both the size & weight of the tiles you’re using. Use only quality trade adhesive & grout of the correct type for the size & material of your tiles.