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Be it plumbing, fire prevention, or any other trade there is some cross between trades, with fire hoods on down lights and cut outs on immersion heaters which for the safety of the customer we have traditionally pointed out to customers when we note a danger.
Some gas rules impeach on electrical and until yesterday I did not know the gas cabinet had to be 2 foot from the electric, it seems it is in gas rule book.
Before buying this house I had it inspected, and the surveyor included in the report the state of the electrics, and this made me realise the problem in doing any report which includes items from other trades.
If fitting a down light we must fit any hood required, if fitting a consumer unit it must be fire resistance, and if fitting an immersion heater there needs to be a cut out if the header tank is thermal plastic, but not if steel.
So with a solid fuel hot water system we would not fit an non resettable cut out and any resettable cut out needs to be assessable without the use of a tool. So if the solid fuel causes over heating it does not stop the electric heating from being used on a latter date.
But where we are only inspecting and testing, we are not likely to be reading manufacturers instructions or have other trades regulations to hand.
So if a home needs 4 smoke detectors, and it has only 2, I am unlikely to realise there is a problem, so if on any report I put a reference to fire protection or prevention there is a chance the person reading the report thinks the requirement for fire protection and prevention are included in the report.
And electrical installation does not include gas, fire, ventilation, or any other installation or if missing, you are only testing fixed electrical installation installed not any which should be installed or not electrical.
So if there is a no opening window in a bathroom because some window fitter has made a mistake, should you really note on any report there is no bathroom fan?
If not should there be a statement on the report to say this report only includes the electrical installation and does not include any non electrical or non installed items?
Some gas rules impeach on electrical and until yesterday I did not know the gas cabinet had to be 2 foot from the electric, it seems it is in gas rule book.
Before buying this house I had it inspected, and the surveyor included in the report the state of the electrics, and this made me realise the problem in doing any report which includes items from other trades.
If fitting a down light we must fit any hood required, if fitting a consumer unit it must be fire resistance, and if fitting an immersion heater there needs to be a cut out if the header tank is thermal plastic, but not if steel.
So with a solid fuel hot water system we would not fit an non resettable cut out and any resettable cut out needs to be assessable without the use of a tool. So if the solid fuel causes over heating it does not stop the electric heating from being used on a latter date.
But where we are only inspecting and testing, we are not likely to be reading manufacturers instructions or have other trades regulations to hand.
So if a home needs 4 smoke detectors, and it has only 2, I am unlikely to realise there is a problem, so if on any report I put a reference to fire protection or prevention there is a chance the person reading the report thinks the requirement for fire protection and prevention are included in the report.
And electrical installation does not include gas, fire, ventilation, or any other installation or if missing, you are only testing fixed electrical installation installed not any which should be installed or not electrical.
So if there is a no opening window in a bathroom because some window fitter has made a mistake, should you really note on any report there is no bathroom fan?
If not should there be a statement on the report to say this report only includes the electrical installation and does not include any non electrical or non installed items?