Britony ii t - temperature control (hot)

[wetfeet]

Hi,

I've had this for a number of years but recently it's been producing much hotter water than ever before. No matter what you do with the temperature dial - actually you can't turn it all the way to max even if you wanted to as it's too stiff there - but even on a very low setting it's very hot indeed.

Is this a sign of anything that's likely to be dangerous and/or is the appliance likely to fail completely in the near future? What do you think it is?

 

[Agile]

It sounds like a boiler which you have never had serviced?

It may well stop working and even using it could be dangerous.

There could be all sorts of reasons, some failed parts, some just adjustments.

Annual servicing usually catches things like this at an early stage.

You need a competent boiler engineer and not all will be happy working on your boiler.

Tony

 

[adlplumbing]

one of three thing hot water termistor gone
pcb faulty or dial snaped in side the boiler

 

[wetfeet]

Thanks gents.

Tony, it was serviced a few years ago after a diaphragm went, if I remember. I'll try and get the same people in.

 

[MrGassafe]

You have a Multi Point water heater. Not a boiler. No pcb. No hot water
thermistor. No mains electric.

Take no notice of the "Boiler Experts".
What you need is advice from a Gas safe registered operative with
water heater gas ticket.

 

[Agile]

Hang on, I have CENWAT and I expect ADL does as well even if he thinks its has PCBs and NTCs! The latest ones do anyway.

 

[expertgasman]

Hang on, I have CENWAT and I expect ADL does as well even if he thinks its has PCBs and NTCs! The latest ones do anyway.[/quote]

??????????

Are you sure, tony. I Think you've seriously shown yourself up here, by berating the OP for noit having his BOILER sevoced.You clearly had no concept of the MultiPoint.

The temp control, IIRC, is actioned by regulating the water flow, and the gas rate is fixed.

The stiffy problem (oo er missis) is likely to be a defective/seizing temperature selector (key no 702).It either needs stripping and lubricating or replacing.

http://theinitiativegroup.org.uk/fscinitiativedatabase/Chaffoteauxmury/waterheaters_e04.pdf

The constant hot water MAY be caused by this, but is also likely to be a scaled up heat exchanger. They are not as sophisticated qs a modern boiler, and when scaled will deliver hotter water, simply bacause of the reduced flow the heat exchanger.Eventually, it will get very noisy, then a bit later STOP working at all.

I should scrub all this 'cos I've just realised we are not in the chamber. However, I won't, but I will say to the OP: get an RGI, MP's are straightforward, bit defo not a DIY job. They have in the past overheated and exploded, and I would not want to have been standing there. Although later models do have overheat stats, I don't think one exists on yours. That would never be allowed on a anew model now, for good reason.

AND NOW I'M GONNA MAKE LIKE ZEBEDEE

 

[Agile]

Its quicker for me to write boiler and the OP will understand that word. Oxford dictionary says a boiler is "a device that heats water by burning gas or oil, especially to provide heating and hot water in a house"

The usual cause of one of his problems is a leaking seal on the temp control knob causing it to seize up. Usually it can be got apart and cleaned and lubricated.

In this case I correctly advised him to call a professional and get it serviced regularly.

All the latest ones I have seen have been fanned and include a Vokera, Main and a very neat Heatline. I have even fitted an FF Main!

Tony

 

[expertgasman]

Its quicker for me to write boiler and the OP will understand that word. Oxford dictionary says a boiler is "a device that heats water by burning gas or oil, especially to provide heating and hot water in a house"

You don't half write some nonsense, Tony.

 

[Agile]

Direct quote from Oxford online dictionary!

Maybe you have your own alternative language and definitions?

I prefer to write the Kings English and to speak the Queens English!

 

[expertgasman]

Direct quote from Oxford online dictionary!

Maybe you have your own alternative language and definitions?

In this case we all do ! By common practice and for clarity "boiler" and "multi point water heater" have specific and seperate definitions. Try walking into PC and asking about available boilers when you mean MP. As for making it easier for the OP (which is really what I was referring to as nonsense), I am sure that he is perfectly capable of understanding the difference and would appreciate being granted at least a modicum of lintelligence

 

[adlplumbing]

did not know it is water heater and yes i have ticket
but water heater you do need rgi to come out as most part are only accessable by braking into the combustion seals

 

[Agile]

In PC I talk our technical industry language.

When talking to a lay OP then I write in simple language which he will understand.

I could have said "geyser" but that term is only used now by very old people as it has fallen out of use.

When I was at school we used to talk about "old geysers" but that was for old men! No longer used in text speak.

 

[namsag]

Yet again proof that care in the community is not working.

 

[MeldrewsMate]

Oxford dictionary says a boiler is "a device that heats water by burning gas or oil, especially to provide heating and hot water in a house"

Oxford dictionary also has the word "Amperage", and you wouldn't expect any competant person to use that word, would you?
Equally what does the OED call an boiler that's not used in a house? Presumably not a boiler?
OED defines common English use of the language (Cockneys excepted), not specialist jargon like what we use.

Often called to a "boiler leak", whereupon householder takes me to the hot water cylinder....

And does "no hot water" mean just that? Or could it be "the water coming out should be hot, but it's cold"?


I feel a Softus moment coming on...what happened to him?

MM