DBB mortiser any good?

[aboardepsilon]

http://www.soubertools.com/dbb.html



I started building my own device ..spent a couple weeks doing it ..then I found that there was already one out there .. called the Souber DBB

Anyway my own gizmo is quite different but not as sophisticated ..and i learned early on that the whole device has to be very rigid and accurate ,, with very little give are back play in it ..to be able to work accurately...in other words has to be built like a brick outhouse.


wondering if the souber device is as good as they make out.

I'm not trying to sell my device to anyone ..

I'm just very interested to know what people think of the dbb

more detailed description here

http://www.morticer.com/english/enghomepage.html


and what other devices are out there ..the names of them ..that can be opperated with an electric drill.

all the best.markj

 

[DC77]

For me the DBB moticer comes into its own when adapting say an ill fitted cheap lock to a five lever BS lock. It allows you to remove the inconsistencies in someone elses work.
There are two versions of the DBB morticer, the latest having a better means of attaching the cutters and improved cutters. The only other devices that I know of are from "Trend" and seem to be more of a template for marking out.
Hope this helps.
DC
Teamlocksmiths

 

[DC77]

Found the "Trend" device see:- http://www.axminster.co.uk/trend-trend-door-lock-jig-prod22573
They also have a jig for hinges:- http://www.axminster.co.uk/trend-trend-hinge-jig-set-prod22296/
DC
Teamlocksmiths

 

[aboardepsilon]

Thankyou DC

Are those screw in threaded cutters avalable anywhere else cheap

Mine uses a forstner bit...drilled a dimple in it . ...put it in a solid bar ..with grub screw locking it.
those cutters that dbb uses look much more up to the job ..
i've got two TCT forstner bits coming from china though ...found a guy on ebay selling them at £2.59 inc postage..not listing as tungsten or carbide..but look like they are.. ..

All the best.markj

 

[DC77]

Well nothing is cheap. The older style of cutter, it slips on to the shaft and is removed by pushing a release on the cutter, are now being sold off by various lock wholesalers. The wholesaler I use had a box full last week. Have a look at:- http://skskeys.co.uk/listings/lock-fitting-tools/
Screwfix sell a forstner bit set, five cutters £ 9.05 see:- http://www.screwfix.com/prods/17412/Drill-Bits/Drill-Bit-Sets/Wood-Sets/Forstner-Bit-Set-5-Pc#
DC
Teamlocksmiths

 

[crank39]

If your really posh you can have the daddy of them all.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLVudybFGI&feature=related

 

[aboardepsilon]

that looks the business ..I wonder, with all that overhanging weight ..you have to clamp it so tight that it marks the door.

all the best.markj

 

[gregers]

when i was a subby the firm i worked for had a chain morticer,beast of a thing and marked the doors no end and suffered lots of chip outs so had to be very careful when using it,a few other peeps used it and messed a few doors up so in the end there were just the 2 of us using it.
if your doing a shed load of doors then it will earn you a fortune,if your only doing a few here and there,i think it will take an age to recoup your investment in the machine.

 

[aboardepsilon]

well I'm not a joiner or carpenter.

I bought some catches recently ..i wanted good ones ..and the good ones were the euro spec ..well the best ones available around here ..

problem was ..they are quite deep .. about 23mm... 24mm with the projections

now then ...i read the instructions with them ..first thing they say is drill a 25.4mm hole ...i says ..whaaaat....thats an inch...my doors are only 35mm thick ..that would leave just 4.75mm each side of the hole..and an ugly sloppy hole .

so i had a choice ..the catch is about 17mm wide with the rivets ..

so i could drill the 17mm or 18 ..and chisel out the rest ..knowing i wanted a perfect job and i have about 10 new custom made solid sapele doors to do..i decided to make a jig that self centred and would allow me to drill one hole half way on top of the other so end up with a nice oval 17mm or 18mm slot that was a lot narrower than the huge 25.4.....i came up with the ideas without looking at anybody else's ..but the thing is similar ..but does not go up and down on rails .

after doing lots of mock ups ..and test drilling on a pieces of wood ..i found out how hard it is to make a device that would allow you drill half a hole on top of another without skipping all over the place ..but i got there in the end ..you drill one hole with this gismo .. quite quickly reposition then drill the next hole ..

what i have now is a very robust machine all aluminium with hardened sleeving that is accurate to within 0.25mm and will last me a life time ..
and it will do locks as well.


Are all future catches going to be 1 inch deep ..if so i see a lot of people having a few problems ..and calling the joiners out when they make a cocck up...
so lots of work for you joiners for the foreseen future if these catches are going to become the norm.

all the best.markj