1. Visiting from the US? Why not try DIYnot.US instead? Click here to continue to DIYnot.US.
    Dismiss Notice

Dulux Trade Soft Sheen - Watering Down

Discussion in 'Decorating and Painting' started by planemad, 7 Apr 2012.

  1. planemad

    planemad

    Joined:
    5 Nov 2008
    Messages:
    555
    Thanks Received:
    19
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Have purchased a 5l tin of trade soft sheen to paint bedroom walls.

    How much water do I need to add to this paint to ensure it flows nicely during application?
     
  2. vibrobullit407

    vibrobullit407

    Joined:
    3 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    765
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Location:
    Blackpool
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I normally water down about 5-10%. Not an exact science really as I can tell by the look and consistency while thinning it.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  3. TheDec

    TheDec

    Joined:
    12 Aug 2010
    Messages:
    2,264
    Thanks Received:
    373
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Are you using this system as a mist coat or to establish a new look paint system over an existing paint film, before the correct advice can be offered regarding both thinning and application, these factors need to be established.

    Dec
     
  4. planemad

    planemad

    Joined:
    5 Nov 2008
    Messages:
    555
    Thanks Received:
    19
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    The soft sheen is going over another coating of soft sheen applied 4 yrs ago.
    The new paint is to freshen up (different colour)
     
  5. vibrobullit407

    vibrobullit407

    Joined:
    3 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    765
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Location:
    Blackpool
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    As thedec states I have jumped the gun a bit here in regards to thinking you were just using the soft sheen over previously painted surfaces. If this is the case then my advice is valid! If using as a mist then watered down about 25-30% but I would advise on using a non vinyl matt emulsion for the mist coat, dulux supermatt would be my choice for the mist!
     
  6. TheDec

    TheDec

    Joined:
    12 Aug 2010
    Messages:
    2,264
    Thanks Received:
    373
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Then lighty sand to provide that all important ( bond) dust off and thin your system no more than 5%.

    Dec
     
  7. TheDec

    TheDec

    Joined:
    12 Aug 2010
    Messages:
    2,264
    Thanks Received:
    373
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Whilst we are on the subject of the possible application of a vinyl paint as a mist, then on the proviso that the skim is dry it is in the norm acceptable to apply such a system, again on the proviso that it is thinned no more than 15%.

    Dec
     
  8. vibrobullit407

    vibrobullit407

    Joined:
    3 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    765
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Location:
    Blackpool
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I personally would thin something like a dulux trade vinyl matt emulsion by 25-30% for a mist due to the very thick consistency. A dulux vinyl soft sheen I would agree on about 15% but for different manufacturers paints the thinning will vary due to the consistency of the different paints. For example I would thin glidden vinyl matt less as the consistency is slightly thinner than the dulux counter part.
     
  9. TheDec

    TheDec

    Joined:
    12 Aug 2010
    Messages:
    2,264
    Thanks Received:
    373
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Has a self established sparks, did you really intend to offer that advice, or have you had a sneaky little look on google. Either or, the guidance from internet research and indeed what it is say's on the tin frankly is often incorrect.

    Dec
     
  10. vibrobullit407

    vibrobullit407

    Joined:
    3 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    765
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Location:
    Blackpool
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Funnily enough thedec I do have some experience with the products mentioned and have carried out many decorating tasks at home and for family and friends and so on. Not that it has anything to do with you as this is a DIY forum and as a DIYer and a spark I have the right to give out advice due to experience's I have had carrying out similar tasks. The advice I have given out on this thread has been correct and has been what I have done and will carry on doing as it has worked when I have done the so mentioned. If you do not like DIYers giving advice on a DIY forum then maybe you will be better suited to a specific decorating forum where you and other decs can ego massage each other but since this is a DIY forum maybe you should back off a bit instead of just trying to antagonize people due to your conflicting advice.

    And as a self established sparks with quite a bit of decorating experience I not only intend to offer that advice as you can clearly see that I have indeed offered it and I stand by it. And by the way I did not look on google for it or looked at a tin. I have given the advice due to my experience's to date.
     
  11. TheDec

    TheDec

    Joined:
    12 Aug 2010
    Messages:
    2,264
    Thanks Received:
    373
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    No, perhaps you have not entered the vast destiny of google, but only stole from the advice of others with the intention of becoming someone of which your not. Take care elrobbo, (Don't know if I spelt that right)

    Dec
     
  12. dcdec

    dcdec

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2011
    Messages:
    1,475
    Thanks Received:
    408
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Elrobbo, why do you advise a non vinyl paint as a mist over a skim?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  13. vibrobullit407

    vibrobullit407

    Joined:
    3 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    765
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Location:
    Blackpool
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I take it you are talking to me?

    To answer your question I advise a non vinyl matt as a mist as it will let the plaster breath. If using a vinyl emulsion then the vinyl content will form a barrier that will inhibit any left over moisture escape from the plaster.

    If you want to ask questions then I think it best if you start up a new thread and not hijack this one as it is in breach of rule "6) Do not hi-jack posts. Hi-jacking is adding your query to somebody else's thread."


    :mrgreen:
     
  14. dcdec

    dcdec

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2011
    Messages:
    1,475
    Thanks Received:
    408
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    The non vinyl thing is a fallacy misinterpreted by the advent of the new(ish) paints designed to go over damp/drying plaster to speed up site work. Once plaster skim is dry there is absolutely no need to use a non vinyl paint, it is only necessary over walls that have had a bonding coat applied first because it is much slower drying and the skim can appear dry whilst the bonding coat may still be retaining moisture.

    Your a fine one to talk about rules my friend
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  15. vibrobullit407

    vibrobullit407

    Joined:
    3 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    765
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Location:
    Blackpool
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Whilst I agree in the aspect that if the plaster is fully cured then there is no need to use a non vinyl. I will still be using it though, as you say if bonding and skimming has taken place then even though the skim looks dry there may indeed be moisture present in the bonding beneath it. Non vinyl also tends to be cheaper that the vinyl counter parts so also a reason for using it! I have also used in the past cheap B&Q emulsion for misting as it also had no vinyl content and was ridiculously cheap and did the job very well. Tend to use supermatt though if I can!
     
Loading...

Share This Page