England thrashed by Senegal.

[Mottie]

England beaten by Senegal: Reaction to Tuchel's first defeat as boss

Reaction to England's 3-1 defeat against Senegal with one year to go until the World Cup.

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks like it’s all going to plan for agent Tuchel!

 

[blup]

The attitude is club before country, we are great at stuff like leaving the EU but shown up as a country at football

 

[Brigadier]

Still p!zzed that "they bombed me granny!", Mottie?


Anyhoo, and being positive, you learn far more from the hard times than you do, the good.
How many times have Ingerlund cruised through friendlies and qualifying, then struggle like beggary when in a pickle at the tournament?


It's comin' home, it's coming.............

 

[Mottie]

The attitude is club before country, we are great at stuff like leaving the EU but shown up as a country at football

Well, at least we're good at the things that matter.

 

[gas112]

your pish and you know you are

 

[blup]

Well, at least we're good at the things that matter.

That's the point, Brexhit suited some but wasn't good for the country.

 

[Mottie]

That's the point, Brexhit suited some but wasn't good for the country.

Whether it suited the country or not, the majority voted for it so we have to go with it. It’s called democracy.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Whether it suited the country or not, the majority voted for it so we have to go with it. It’s called democracy.

Part of the challenge is when results are so close. I think Brexit was 52% for 48% against (rounded.) It stands to reason, unless the thing voted on becomes a clear success in the eyes of most of the country, it will never be a settled debate.

The same will be true if there's ever another Scottish independence referendum. If it's close, and x years later the benefits are difficult to prove/quantify, the argument about whether it was worth it will go round and round.

For any referendum that is on such a scale of importance, might it be an idea to have a minimum % that's required for the proposal to be enacted? Perhaps somewhere in the region of 55-60% inc. That way, even if the success of the thing is debatable in years to come, it can be pointed out that more than a slim majority voted for said change.

 

[pete01]

And next year we will be 3rd favourite to win the world cup probably.....LOL

 

[Highway Man]

And next year we will be 3rd favourite to win the world cup probably.....LOL

Only one person good enough to bring that home, unfortunately I am tied up with secret work so it will have to wait.

 

[gas112]

Part of the challenge is when results are so close. I think Brexit was 52% for 48% against (rounded.) It stands to reason, unless the thing voted on becomes a clear success in the eyes of most of the country, it will never be a settled debate.

The same will be true if there's ever another Scottish independence referendum. If it's close, and x years later the benefits are difficult to prove/quantify, the argument about whether it was worth it will go round and round.

For any referendum that is on such a scale of importance, might it be an idea to have a minimum % that's required for the proposal to be enacted? Perhaps somewhere in the region of 55-60% inc. That way, even if the success of the thing is debatable in years to come, it can be pointed out that more than a slim majority voted for said change.

As they did with the first Scottish devolution vote in 1979 when they never accepted the majority vote and said over 40% of the total electorate must vote for it