Farage on swans - is he right?

[Si_]

I honestly cant believe people excuse immigrants abusing children....

And the excuse is most people who get abused knew their abuser......

Well f**k me sideways.....

That's the way the minds of these apologists work. Degenerate to a fault.

 

[Notch7]

I think you're missing the point, which is their entire culture is not ours. It's more like ours was 5,000 years ago, and in many ways worse.

They're eating swans - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
They're sexually assaulting women - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
They're groping girls in playgrounds - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
They're crapping on the street corners - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
They're fighting each other with machetes - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
They're walking into people's houses and helping themselves - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
They're stripping naked on the Tube - "Yes, but it's only a few of them doing that."
etc.

The percentage offending rate is important.

Just because the Daily Mail publishes stories frequently about immigrant criminal activity does not mean every immigrant is a criminal.

Si_ just wants the narrative that they are all criminals

 

[Notch7]

That's the way the minds of these apologists work. Degenerate to a fault.

Wanting the data, the facts is not being an apologist.

You have a history of posting falsehoods and misinformation, you can’t be trusted.

 

[noseall]

Wow, you're onto something there!

No, I'm joking.

Number of illegal boat immigrants in 2018 - 299
Number of illegal boat immigrants in 2019 - 1,807
Number of illegal boat immigrants in 2020 - 8,673
Number of illegal boat immigrants in 2021 - 29,620
Number of illegal boat immigrants in 2023 - 45,808
...

Given that, can you think of another reason Farage started talking about boat immigrants in 2020?

Pre-Brexit the numbers were low. Pretty much climbing since.

Dumb shmucks. And a lot of it down to Nigel and the stupid.

 

[noseall]

I honestly cant believe people excuse immigrants abusing children....

And the excuse is most people who get abused knew their abuser......

Well f**k me sideways.....

I honestly can't believe some people live in fear of facts.

 

[Mottie]

We don't know who they are some are really nice some are not, don't let any in until we know for sure.....anyone who cant see that is thick...

Most of the people entering the U.K. or any other country come to that are really nice. Unfortunately some are not which is why all countries worth entering require a passport or visa to enter so they know who they are letting in. With unchecked immigrants entering the country and being allowed to roam at will, you have no idea just who are roaming our streets. They should be looked after firmly but fairly but detained at all times until their case is heard. That alone will deter a great number of them.

It’s ludicrous that we can’t leave this country without passing all sorts of checks - in fact all those on this forum that are all for letting unlimited unknown persons into this country (always remainers) often complain about the time it takes them with their U.K. passports to enter another European country - but we actively bring any fùcker of any nationality in from Europe that can get past the halfway point in the channel in a rubber boat!

 

[Highway Man]

Most of the people entering the U.K. or any other country come to that are really nice. Unfortunately some are not which is why all countries worth entering require a passport or visa to enter so they know who they are letting in. With unchecked immigrants entering the country and being allowed to roam at will, you have no idea just who are roaming our streets. They should be looked after firmly but fairly but detained at all times until their case is heard. That alone will deter a great number of them.

It’s ludicrous that we can’t leave this country without passing all sorts of checks - in fact all those on this forum that are all for letting unlimited unknown persons into this country (always remainers) often complain about the time it takes them with their U.K. passports to enter another European country - but we actively bring any fùcker of any nationality in from Europe that can get past the halfway point in the channel in a rubber boat!

Massive security problem, it will be too late once they have grouped and formed cells and then we will have a real problem on our hands. A war from within which will be our own fault and doing.

 

[Notch7]

- in fact all those on this forum that are all for letting unlimited unknown persons into this country

Nobody anywhere on here has said that.

With unchecked immigrants entering the country and being allowed to roam at will, you have no idea just who are roaming our streets. They should be looked after firmly but fairly but detained at all times until their case is heard

Great

What taxes would you increase to pay for it?

 

[Mottie]

Nobody anywhere on here has said that.

Although you are all for letting them in and being allowed to work. If that’s not supporting an open doors policy for any unknown, unchecked randoms arriving by RNLI taxi service to walk straight into a job, I don't know what is. Yeah, that’ll cut the desire to get to the U.K. illegally and with no ID on a rubber boat, won’t it.

If they could work they wouldn’t be targets for gangs forcing them into the black economy also it’s not good having lots of people who are bored, the devil makes work for idle minds.

Great

What taxes would you increase to pay for it?

Don't ask me, ask Sir Kier. He's the one that’s letting them in now.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

.... Could it be that Britons suddenly forgot their culture after 50,000 years, ....

We were cavepersons then. Not sure living in a cave is relevant to most of our lives ...

Some people have a great deal of difficulty with numbers.

Since when has 40% been a majority?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

...It's more like ours was 5,000 years ago, and in many ways worse.

...

Are they building a Stonehenge, like Britons did in 3000BC?
Have they just started using writing as a form of communication like Britons did in 3000BC?
Have they just started using Bronze for tools like Britons did in 3000BC?
Are they into worshipping the stars, the sun, etc, like Britons did in 3000BC?


Answer, No!
They were developing their civilisation earlier than Britons in 3000BC.

Mesopotamia: Civilization Begins​

Ancient Mesopotamia, centered in present-day Iraq, occupies a unique place in the history of human culture. It is there, around 3400–3000 BC, that all the key elements of urban civilization first appear in one place: cities with monumental infrastructure and official bureaucracies overseeing agricultural, economic, and religious activities; the earliest known system of writing; and sophisticated architecture, arts, and technologies.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

... With unchecked immigrants entering the country and being allowed to roam at will, you have no idea just who are roaming our streets. They should be looked after firmly but fairly but detained at all times until their case is heard. ...

Excellent idea! Why doesn't UK do that?

Oh, they do.

newly arrived asylum seekers can be detained upon arrival in the UK, particularly if they arrive irregularly, such as by small boat. Detention is typically for the purpose of initial examination and processing or to verify identity.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Although you are all for letting them in and being allowed to work. ...

They're not allowed to work. Unless they've been waiting for a decision on their application for more than 12 months, and the job is on a government approved list.

asylum seekers cannot generally work in the UK, but they may be granted permission if they have been waiting more than 12 months for an initial decision on their claim and the job is on the Immigration Salary List.

I suggest you check your facts before posting disinformation.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

no sh1te services, no long NHS waiting lists, no housing shortage, no lack of jobs, no harm being done to 'our women and kids.' Hooray!!!!

Services, running at 95% capacity = no problems. Services, facing a 105% load on capacity, then something has to give, to make up for that overload.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Services, running at 95% capacity = no problems. Services, facing a 105% load on capacity, then something has to give, to make up for that overload.

Young, fit immigrants are the least likely to need the services of the NHS.

• Younger and healthier population:
  Migrants often arrive in the UK younger and in better health, which contributes to lower initial healthcare utilization compared to the UK-born population.