First House, dodgy garage wiring

[securespark]

RCDs.

In the past it was VOELCB's.

 

[securespark]

That's Essex! Sounds mad, but not officially in the "South East".

But Oxford is???

Essex is East England?

 

[Risteard]

direct from its own breaker on the consumer unit.

Or better yet a switch fuse.

 

[Risteard]

Likely there is a shared neutral on the lighting circuits as well - why put them both on the same side otherwise?

Perhaps - but if there is a borrowed neutral then they should have been combined into one circuit instead of the dangerous and prohibited bodge of having two circuits with a borrowed neutral protected by one RCCB.

 

[Risteard]

No issue with them putting MCBs not blanks in

I despise unused circuit breakers being fitted - that's what blank ways are for. (Although I hate non-DIN rail-mounted blanks.)

 

[JohnW2]

I despise unused circuit breakers being fitted...

As a matter of interest, why?

Kind Regards, John

 

[Risteard]

As a matter of interest, why?

Kind Regards, John

Because they don't do anything and can also lead to confusion. That's what blanks were designed for.

 

[JohnW2]

Because they don't do anything and can also lead to confusion. That's what blanks were designed for.

They certainly don't "do anything", but adequate labelling can avoid any risk of confusion - at least for anyone who can read. However, I don't really see any of that as a reason for 'despising' the practice!

Kind Regards, John

 

[Risteard]

They certainly don't "do anything", but adequate labelling can avoid any risk of confusion - at least for anyone who can read. However, I don't really see any of that as a reason for 'despising' the practice!

Kind Regards, John

I consider it very poor practice, unless it is specifically written into the spec that they must be left there.

 

[JohnW2]

I consider it very poor practice, unless it is specifically written into the spec that they must be left there.

Fair enough - that is your prerogative.

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I consider it very poor practice, unless it is specifically written into the spec that they must be left there.

So if you were starting with a fully populated board but not using all of the ways, you'd deliberately omit some of the breakers, preferring to use less-secure and therefore less safe blanking strips, and to create a storage problem for the customer, and you'd consider that a better and more professional practice?

 

[Risteard]

preferring to use less-secure and therefore less safe blanking strips

You have a problem with comprehension. I specifically stated that I expect to see DIN rail-mounted blanks.

 

[securespark]

I've not had popcorn in a while...

 

[JohnW2]

I've not had popcorn in a while...

I would suggest that we should all do whatever we can (e.g. avoiding getting involved in relevant exchanges) to avoid a recurrent need for popcorn.

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

You have a problem with comprehension. I specifically stated that I expect to see DIN rail-mounted blanks.

I missed that (although to be precise, you didn't specifically state that you expect to see DIN rail-mounted blanks, you said that you hate non-DIN rail-mounted ones, but I take the point that you wouldn't install the clip-in ones).

But that still leaves the customer with a storage problem created by you, and (probably) extra costs created by you. I do struggle to see how that is a better and more professional practice.