Fuel filler neck legit?

[Harry Bloomfield]

Maybe I don't. But you will tell me. Again, why are my opinions so terrifying for people?

They don't terrify anyone, they just find it rather odd/strange, that anyone could misunderstand, misrepresent 'modification' so drastically.

So, we have another one with lots of non-OE parts on his car. My suggestion is don't worry about. Getting hit by invalidation is not guaranteed.

They class a 'modification', as something which makes the car go faster, reduces the safety, makes it easier to steal, sub-standard parts, which puts you more at risk, on the road, increases their risk of a claim.

My car has three items which affect the risk...

1. I have a none OEM back box. No OEM items were available, so I had it replaced with one which is not noisier, and fits. Change in risk - zero.
2. I fitted an OEM tow bar, and OEM fancy electrics, change in risk zero. This I used in preference to a basic system, because it constantly monitors my trailer lighting, and flags up any failure instantly.
3. I had the ECU remapped, to better improve the performance and safety in pulling out. Change in risk, effectively slightly reducing the risk. I felt at risk, pulling out into traffic, the way the OEM ECU was mapped.

I have always declared 2, and 3. Neither of which affects my annual premium. I have not bothered to advise them of 1, because it is absolutely pointless, it doesn't in any way, affect their risk.

Would I tell them I fitted a none-OEM cam cover, or none-OEM light bulb, or bought a none-OEM fuel filler funnel - are you totally bats? Maybe for the amusement of your entire insurance companies office, try ringing them, and letting them know about your none-OEM parts.

 

[DiyNutJob]

sub-standard

Anything not OE is non-standard, therefore sub-standard.

I read somewhere recently that modifying the coding in the onbaord computer is illegal or some such. Coding could be interpreted as coded data, or the execution code. Modifying engine operating parameters will fall into that category.

 

[Mottie]

Anything not OE is non-standard, therefore sub-standard.

Harry's right. You know f all about the meaning of the phrase Original Equipment.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Anything not OE is non-standard, therefore sub-standard.

Absolute nonsense. None OEM standards, quality, and safety can be higher then OEM. My OEM back box was plain steel, my new one id SS, and will last forever.

I read somewhere recently that modifying the coding in the onbaord computer is illegal or some such. Coding could be interpreted as coded data, or the execution code. Modifying engine operating parameters will fall into that category.

More made up nonsense, illegal, under what laws?

 

[Mottie]

More made up nonsense, illegal, under what laws?

NutJob laws.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Absolute nonsense. None OEM standards, quality, and safety can be higher then OEM. My OEM back box was plain steel, my new one id SS, and will last forever.

SS will galvanic corrode other metals it comes in contact with. The reason OEM did not use SS is because that piece is sacrificial, or at the minimum galvanically neutral, to protect the more valuable piece it is attached to. Standards are defined by a recognized authority. Where such authority is absent, the authority defaults to the OEM. Unless you can show a written evidence that the OEM accepts your part as standard, then it is non-standard therefore substandard. If I were the judge in this case, I would conclude your SS part is substandard because it will damage the critical part it is attached to.

More made up nonsense, illegal, under what laws?

Computer related would be under cyber security laws.

 

[DiyNutJob]

NutJob laws.

It's funny until you get invalidated.

 

[stevie888]

This thread is getting quite entertaining!

I must say that I have always viewed modification as deliberately altering or adding something for a specific reason, not simply replacing like for like. You here of plenty of instances where oem and pattern parts are absolutely identical even down to the packing (apart from price).

Two situations from my motoring experience: First an impoverished student with an ancient mini doing 10 miles to the pint (of oil!). Cheapest and quickest option was an 1100 engine fitted. Garage said don't bother to tell insurance but I did and there was no change to premium.

On a few years and the capri needs a new exhaust. The original was one big piece and when I asked the fitter how they did it he said it was simple: exhaust hung on before axle fitted during assembly. So there was no way an oem exhaust was ever going to be fitted by the local exhaust centre.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

It's funny until you get invalidated.

I rather think, that it is DNJ who is invalidated.