Fuel filler neck legit?

[Mottie]

You were obviously claiming to know a great deal about cars electronics systems, yet all you have managed to prove is - you know nothing much at all.

He’s proved his lack of knowledge on many occasions in the past.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

He’s proved his lack of knowledge on many occasions in the past.

Yep!

It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it. DNJ seems to completely ignore this.

 

[DiyNutJob]

You were obviously claiming to know a great deal about cars electronics systems, yet all you have managed to prove is - you know nothing much at all.

I made no such claim. I know next to nothing about electronics and don't really want to know because I simply have no more space in my head for them. But I do know about device functions, i.e. what stuff are capable of or could be made capable of. Hence, I am able to tell you: if car manufacturers want to, they can lock things down. Since the referenced video was talking about locking things down, it's reasonable for me to believe the lock was in place. The current economics of the world also tell me the same: people, manufacturers are getting desperate. When desperate, they lock things down.

 

[JohnD]

I made no such claim. I know next to nothing about electronics and don't really want to know because I simply have no more space in my head for them.

That, I can believe.

You also have no space in your head to learn about car theft.

 

[DiyNutJob]

You also have no space in your head to learn about car theft.

No need to learn something that doesn't happen where I am. Even if it I happens, I don't see the point of worrying over a £500 write off. The road tax will be more than that soon.

 

[Mottie]

No need to learn something that doesn't happen where I am.

Probably true when you live in the ghetto. Feck all worth nicking.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Probably true when you live in the ghetto. Feck all worth nicking.

Equally possible there are no poor people around who need to steal. People just politely walk up and ask if selling.

 

[Mottie]

People just politely walk up and ask if selling.

Yeah, some scrap merchants are more polite than others.

 

[Avocet]

Not pretending. My car has K-line. I don't even know what k-line is, much less what canbus is. I don't watch TV, and youtube has never recommended k-line nor canbus. So, I am in the dark.

First thing you've said in a long time that I can actually agree with! You are, indeed, completely in the dark!

 

[Avocet]

I made no such claim. I know next to nothing about electronics and don't really want to know because I simply have no more space in my head for them. But I do know about device functions, i.e. what stuff are capable of or could be made capable of. Hence, I am able to tell you: if car manufacturers want to, they can lock things down. Since the referenced video was talking about locking things down, it's reasonable for me to believe the lock was in place. The current economics of the world also tell me the same: people, manufacturers are getting desperate. When desperate, they lock things down.

The new cybersecurity regulations adopted in the EU from 2024, will start making it much harder for third parties to get into car computer systems. Nothing to do with the manufacturers, just regulation. The UK has announced it will also adopt them (although most new cars sold in GB already comply. The manufacturers can't do right for doing wrong though. Ever since I was a kid and you could open every third Cortina with the same key, people have been crying about how easy cars are to steal. Every time car manufacturers improve security, all they get is moans about how complicated new cars are and how expensive it is to get another key when the owner loses theirs. We can't win!

The hypothetical 14 year old crackhead won't have developed the software. He'll just have been shown how to do it and given the equipment.