Hanging Guitars on plasterboard wall

[Twofingertyper]

Hi all,

I was planning to hang two guitars off a wall that's plasterboard, and was recommended to use 'Hafele Plastplu Metal Rawlplug Self-Drill Plasterboard' as a way of hanging affixing the guitar hanger to the wall.

All looked to make sense and sounded straightforward, but it was not to be - the Rawlplugs go in, and then spin around and around without really gaining any purchase - so when I attempted to add the guitar hanger it simply pulled the plug out of the wall when any weight was put on it.

Is there another type that I should use? Is hanging things on plasterboard just a bad idea? Any possible fixes?

Thanks,
TFT

 

[foxhole]

Depends whats behind the plasterboard, the plugs mentioned only work with hollow plasterboard, anything solid behind and they just tear a hole.Do you have dot and dab walls? onto what blocks or brick?

 

[Twofingertyper]

Ah - had overlooked that... it's dot and dab onto blocks

 

[foxhole]

Then you need to drill and plug , unless it's thermalite block in which case you can just screw straight into it with a long coarse thread screw.(100mm minimum) will hold light weight like guitar.

 

[Twofingertyper]

That sounds doable - given that there is the plasterboard and a gap before the block, is there a particular trick to getting the plug in? Or am I over-thinking things after the initial error?

Normally, how would you do this if you hadn't already made holes in the wall? Drill a larger hole so that you could then drill a smaller hole and plug in the block?

 

[foxhole]

Same size hole straight thru all.

 

[Twofingertyper]

Cheers - final query (of the day) - I'm not sure that the provided screws/rawlplugs are the best, is there a standard length of screw/plug that you'd recommend?

Having messed up once, I'd like my next attempt to be better informed!

 

[Chud]

What sort of guitar - there's quite a weight difference between an acoustic and a Les Paul (10lbs+ for original non weight relieved models)?

 

[Twofingertyper]

One Tanglewood acoustic, one Les Paul junior - neither that fancy/expensive!

 

[foxhole]

These should suit any application http://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-high-performance-universal-plugs-ux10-6-8-x-60mm-50-pack/92197

with a screw of similar length.

 

[Alec_t]

Looking at the pic of those plugs, I'm surprised the lateral barbs point towards the screw entry rather than away from it. I would expect the purpose of the barbs to be to make plug entry into the hole easier than withdrawal, yet it seems to me the reverse would happen. Still, I guess the makers know best .

 

[Twofingertyper]

Sorry for slow reply - laid low by illness last week.

Those plugs looked good, but the Q & A section suggests that "Dot and dab does not usually leave enough gap for the UX to knot up properly and you may not get enough of it in to the brickwork to be effective" - however, if you've practical experience of using them on dot and dab I'm happy to take your word for it.

 

[Twofingertyper]

In the end for this (given my confusion above) I went for DrylinePro fixings for the wall - all seems okay currently!