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The bigoted liars are bigoted liars. And it's wrong to foment hatred with bigoted lies.
I have presented a plethora of scientific and medical proof that a lot ofthe comments posted by you and others are bigoted lies.
What more proof do you want or need.
of course you can dismis this proof with comments like "not true" until doomsday, or you can resort to bigoted lies as you have.
But the proof is out there. Ignore if you insist, but that only proves that you are a bigoted liar.
No-one is being asked to accomodate anyone else "to their own detriment". They're just asking for their rights to be respected.
They're just asking others to stop posting their bigoted lies to foment hatred against them or to deny their existence.
Is this just a recurrent fantasy of yours, or has somebody said to you "trans people do not exist?"
It's a strawman argument. No-one has claimed that a man is a woman.
There's not much more required for a transwoman to be a woman in the legal sense.
That'll be why transwomen have rights enshrined in law.
They have their rights enshrined in law to protect them from those who would deny their existence.
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PLease present one of your responses and my specific question with clear and uambiguous record of posts.
You clearly and uambiguously deny the right of a transwoman to be a woman, despite they have a right to be a woman with their rights enshrined in law:
I'll start you off:
Here's one such example of you responding with one of your flat denial of the obvious:
Demographic and temporal trends in transgender identities and gender confirming surgery
Transgender and gender non-binary (TGNB) individuals are a growing demographic with unique healthcare needs. Amid changes in public and private insurance coverage of gender confirming surgeries (GCS), utilization of these procedures is increasing. Meanwhile, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Proved my point.Is that too much to ask. They consider that their sex "label" can conform to their gender, and with a GRC it can.
A GRC is just a legal process, it makes no difference to how the persons thinks or feels.
A person can travel abroad, a passport merely allows them to do so legally.
I can have an ID card, but it's not legally necessary.
You mean like TERFs don't want to listen to those that want to deny the existence of transgenders?
Or Gender Essentialists who also want to deny the existence of transgenders and refuse to listen to counter arguments?
Only a minority of transgeder people undergo surgery. Again I would ask you for some real life data to support your assertion, but I know I'd be wasting my time. Transgenders are people who don't feel that they conform to the sex label that was assigned to them at birth.
So your assertion is illogical.
Demographic and temporal trends in transgender identities and gender confirming surgery
Transgender and gender non-binary (TGNB) individuals are a growing demographic with unique healthcare needs. Amid changes in public and private insurance coverage of gender confirming surgeries (GCS), utilization of these procedures is increasing. Meanwhile, ...
Total nonsense and offensive.
Mental illness does not cause transgender feelings, so it's not surprising that it's dismissed as bigoted nonsense.
More bigoted nonsense and offensive.
Being transgender is not damaging. Refusing or social objection, to accept your transgender desires can be damaging.
Thye are legally forced to accept the sex label that was assigned to them at birth. It isn't a choice.
I would ask for any real life data for you to support your asertion, but I know from experience I would be wasting my time.
Of course transgenders want everyone to access their legal rights.
But have you any evidence that transactivists want to deny others their rights? Or is this another of your fantastical imaginations?
You're just throwing out any old bigoted nonsense that drifts into your head with no chance of producing any evidence to support your comments whatsoever.
You cry TERF, bigot, nonsense and complain others don’t provide evidence.
Trans people have disproportionately bad health (smoking drinking, as well as HIV) and the long term affect of the drugs increases cancer risk.
Breast cancer risk in transgender people receiving hormone treatment: nationwide cohort study in the Netherlands
Objective To investigate the incidence and characteristics of breast cancer in transgender people in the Netherlands compared with the general Dutch population. Design Retrospective, nationwide cohort study. Setting Specialised tertiary gender clinic in Amsterdam, the Netherlands...
These people exist. They are convicted rapists, with cock and balls, born male (not "assigned" male) with male physique and male behaviour. I say they are men. Roy says they are women. I have never denied their existence.
Do a wig and red leggings turn a man into a woman?
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They do not have the rights you pretend.
Worrying evidence which explains why women are worried.
Here a trans woman talks sense.
The prison service needs to work with facts, not fiction | Centre for Crime and Justice Studies
www.crimeandjustice.org.uk
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Please explain precisely. What point of yours is that supposed to prove?Proved my point.
You cry TERF, bigot, nonsense and complain others don’t provide evidence.
Trans people have disproportionately bad health (smoking drinking, as well as HIV) and the long term affect of the drugs increases cancer risk.
Breast cancer risk in transgender people receiving hormone treatment: nationwide cohort study in the Netherlands
Objective To investigate the incidence and characteristics of breast cancer in transgender people in the Netherlands compared with the general Dutch population. Design Retrospective, nationwide cohort study. Setting Specialised tertiary gender clinic in Amsterdam, the Netherlands...www.bmj.com
Who has ever denied that Transgenders suffer poor health?
When you are consatntly faced with bigoted nonsense and lies, it does cause poor health. Is that a surprise to you or anyone else?
Or is that a perfect example of your strawman arguments?
Oh here we go, theatrical photos of a few individuals trying to prove gender essentialism is founded on science.
No-one has ever demied that criminals will exploit opportunities to commit their crimes.
Is that a surprise to anyone.
Out of the potential, 4,500,000 transgenders in Uk there are three criminals exploiting the system to commit their crimes.
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Trans drugs increase cancer risk - fact.
Trans women are over represented in convicted sexual offenders. - fact
The ECHR says women can be fathers and men can be mothers - fact.
People who have mental illnesses are over represented in trans - fact.
Many women are against blokes in frocks using their loos. Fact.
Work with the facts and not the fiction.
Trans women are over represented in convicted sexual offenders. - fact
The ECHR says women can be fathers and men can be mothers - fact.
People who have mental illnesses are over represented in trans - fact.
Many women are against blokes in frocks using their loos. Fact.
Work with the facts and not the fiction.
How did you come up with that number?
I see you do not deny that you believe these men to be women.
I sense a topic lock coming up in the not too distant future.
You're prone to typing quite a lot of stuff that's at best misinformed, and do you not get bored multi-quoting every other person to the nth degree and arguing black to their white?
Regardless of what the law says, regardless of what's enshrined within it, regardless of the rights afforded to whatever societal group, all of that doesn't necessarily equate to something connected to said laws being 100% factually accurate or indeed accepted by wider society.
As I said previously, I would defend the right of those who genuinely feel they're in the wrong body to transition and be supported in that process. The end result is they become a trans man or woman. They are not male or female in the same respect as someone who's so from birth. As the Oxford dictionary puts it (trans woman definition):
a person who was registered as male at birth but who lives and identifies as a woman; a transgender woman.
They identify as a woman (or man for trans male). The law may indeed say they are to be afforded the same rights as a woman. However, in the true sense of the word, they're not a woman. That fact cannot be denied regardless of what society is increasingly trying to tell us.
You didn't like my earlier analogy because it went against your narrative however I'll use it again. If I undergo Caucasian treatment to make myself appear Caucasian and not mixed race ... I'm not Caucasian. I'd be trans Caucasian. There's a difference.
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