ICE told to get the eff out

[motorbiking]

Yes. I’m surprised you didn’t know that. The offence is committed when you spit at the person. If it hits them then it’s a different offence.

 

[MNW67]

Yes. I’m surprised you didn’t know that. The offence is committed when you spit at the person. If it hits them then it’s a different offence.

I don't believe that spitting on someone's car is an assault. Certainly not in this country. It sounds ridiculous. Unless the car felt it was being put in danger.

 

[motorbiking]

I don't believe that spitting on someone's car is an assault. Certainly not in this country. It sounds ridiculous. Unless the car felt it was being put in danger.

He spat at the agent. It doesn’t matter if it hits his visor, window or shoe. It’s the same here. Spitting at police is battery/common assault. You might be lucky to plead it down to misdemeanour (US) but probably not with the vandalism/criminal damage.

Do some googling - people get jail, even if they miss in the US.

In the U.K. if you attack a vehicle with emergency services inside the it’s Assaults on Emergency Workers (Offences) Act 2018.

 

[MNW67]

He spat at the agent. It doesn’t matter if it hits his visor, window or shoe. It’s the same here. Spitting at police is battery/common assault. You might be lucky to plead it down to misdemeanour (US) but probably not with the vandalism/criminal damage.

Do some googling - people get jail, even if they miss in the US.

In the U.K. if you attack a vehicle with emergency services inside the it’s Assaults on Emergency Workers (Offences) Act 2018.

You are conflating, I think. They were safe in their car.

Do you really believe these armed agents, decked out from head to toe in combat gear, felt threatened by somebody spitting in their direction whilst they were safely in their car. The whole idea is beyond silly.

 

[fillyboy]

He spat at the agent. It doesn’t matter if it hits his visor, window or shoe. It’s the same here. Spitting at police is battery/common assault. You might be lucky to plead it down to misdemeanour (US) but probably not with the vandalism/criminal damage.

Do some googling - people get jail, even if they miss in the US.

In the U.K. if you attack a vehicle with emergency services inside the it’s Assaults on Emergency Workers (Offences) Act 2018.

Increased legal scrutiny and harsher sentencing guidelines were introduced during the covid lockdown here when 'scumbags gobbing at people' saw a 74% increase.

 

[motorbiking]

You are conflating, I think. They were safe in their car.

Do you really believe these armed agents, decked out from head to toe in combat gear, felt threatened by somebody spitting in their direction whilst they were safely in their car. The whole idea is beyond silly.

Or you can just say sorry I didn’t know. Thanks for educating me about the law… again.

 

[fillyboy]

Incoming.

 

[motorbiking]

Incoming.

I’m sure Google AI can help

 

[MNW67]

Or you can just say sorry I didn’t know. Thanks for educating me about the law… again.

You misunderstood. As usual.

For it to be an assault, somebody needs to feel threatened. That was the point I was making. I really can't see anyone accepting that these heavily armed agents felt threatened by somebody spitting towards them whilst they were safely in their car.

But anyway, I feel myself being dragged into a ridiculous and pointless hundred page debate. This was partly what my AI experiment was meant to avoid. Feel free to have the last word if you really believe that somebody spitting on a car in these circumstances is an assault.

 

[motorbiking]

You misunderstood. As usual.

For it to be an assault, somebody needs to feel threatened. That was the point I was making. I really can't see anyone accepting that these armed agents felt threatened by somebody spitting towards them whilst they were safely in their car.

But anyway, I feel myself being dragged into a ridiculous and pointless hundred page debate. This was partly what my AI experiment was meant to avoid. Feel free to have the last word.

It’s all avoidable if you just accept you don’t know what you are taking about.

But it may help if you are clear about which jurisdiction you are referring to.

U.K.
spitting at police. Assault + emergency worker aggravating factor. If it hits them on the skin it’s more serious.

Attacking and damaging a vehicle with police inside. Public order + criminal damage + aggravated factor.

US.
As I’ve already said. Assault + vandalism + resisting.

 

[fillyboy]

 

[motorbiking]

That’s just foreplay.

 

[fillyboy]

That’s just foreplay.

I'm not sure who's spitting at who, they might both be at it.

 

[noseall]

Spitting is assault

Towards a car?

 

[MNW67]

Towards a car?