ICE told to get the eff out

Reminds me of the Manchester Airport muslim attack of July 24. The loonies had the case sewn up when the first video came out but NONE of them thought about the things that had happened immediately beforehand.

 
As to whether you agree with this poor woman's political view is not the case. We all have a right to protest.
From what I have seen she clearly reversed and then drove forward to move away, if her intention was to run over any one would she have done so?. The ice officer's where probably píssed off because because of her and her wife's attitude towards them but does that justify murdering someone.
I think she had no intention at all to drive into anybody,
The force used was excessive, unfortunately typical of the USA,
Such a shame that she died because of hurty words
 
There aren't being held in prison because they are 'activists' ,

Oh yes they are.


they are in prison because they have been accused of criminal offences.

The reason they've been accused of them is because they are "activists".

And the reason they have been remanded in custody for so long is that the state is using the accusation of "terrorism" to bludgeon "activist" protesters out of existence.


Conflating activism with terrorism is a bit like conflating Judiasm with Zionism

We have people here who conflate Zionism with Judaism.
 
You want to start imprisoning labour supporters?
not the traditional type labour supporters, i'm one of those, but these radicalised looney far left virtue signalling ones, they are wrecking our country. trump calls them homeland terrorists, and he is right, that is exactly what they are, they hate our country.
 
not the traditional type labour supporters, i'm one of those, but these radicalised looney far left virtue signalling ones, they are wrecking our country. trump calls them homeland terrorists, and he is right, that is exactly what they are, they hate our country.
Who are they?
 
It's what he does. He even digs himself into a hole of arguing with and abusing someone for posting thing he agrees with, then says he hasn't got time any more as there are some light bulbs that need changing, and wanders off, hoping nobody will notice the hole...
Nonsense, anyways gotta bounce now as a couple of bulbs to change and no time for you right now.
 
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If she drives her vehicle at a law enforcement officer, yes.
You mean if I were to walk over to a woman's car in the US, with four other blokes, masked, armed, surround her car, deliberately position myself in front of her car, scream at her to move her car, try to reach in through the window, try to open her door, and she moves that car - I can shoot her dead, even when I have no lawful reason to be doing that very thing?
 
We are talking about somebody with his finger on the trigger, gun aimed and just waiting for the car to move. I could definitely do it in quarter of second.

But I have forgotten what point you were trying to make, anyway. What was the significance of the two seconds. Are you saying that he needed two seconds to process whether the car was turning right or going straight ahead. That would probably take me about a tenth of second.

He also had the advantage that he had seen her put on full right lock and had seen the wheels move accordingly.
You’ve made the argument that shot 1 might be lawful and shot 2 and 3 were definitely not.

You then used poor AI prompts to argue reaction times are applicable, when in fact thinking time for hazard/threat reaction is well established to be 1-2s. Take driving stopping distances for example.

You were asked to provide your sources and didn’t.

I’m of the view that the decision to fire 3 shots was one and not a single shot followed by a double tap execution shot. In reality, the first shot was likely to be lethal.

Had there been 1 or 2 seconds between the first and the 2nd, then I would agree, assuming there is any material difference to the lethal first shot of which I’m doubtful.

We are trying to understand your claim that it’s a slam dunk.
 
We are trying to understand your claim that it’s a slam dunk.

I said it would be a slam dunk if it was either the second or third shot which killed her. On the basis that by that time the car had passed him and was driving away from him. And that therefore he could not possibly be in any danger. There was no need to fire through her side window. Everybody else understands it already!
 
There was no need to shoot.

I agree. I believe the killer knew very well which way the car was going and that he was in no danger. But some will still try to argue the toss about the first shot. The next two shots were definitely illegal, though. That is the point I was making to MBK.
 
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