I did add to an existing post of mine (from March this year) noting that I'd had a Vogue 32 fitted. It hasn't attracted much response, which is no problem, and it will rest in peace.
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But there's often conversations here about whether or not a combi will serve two simultaneous showers and I can now speak from personal experience having had my Ideal in for a couple of weeks. Admittedly in the middle of summer when the incoming water is warmer than in Jan or Feb.
I did make a post, some time ago, in which I said I was going to supply the combi with a specific 22mm supply taken directly after where the incoming 25mm MDPE enters the house (under the sink in the kitchen) going straight to the boiler...... I said I would provide the aforementioned supply with a Reliance drop tight 22mm pressure reducing valve and a Pegler full bore isolating lever valve. I also said I've provided a 28mm gas supply serving the boiler only (reduced to 22mm for the last feww metres.) I would have also said the pressure and flow to the house is excellent.
There are two Mira 903 thermostatic mixers - one in the bathroom, one in the en-suite. They used to be fed by gravity from the tank in the loft and the water heated by a 28 year old Ideal Classic cast iron 50,000 boiler and a copper cylinder in the airing cupboard.
All that is now gone.
The Mira mixers have a selector on the back for LOW pressure or HIGH pressure. It's now on HIGH. I've fitted an Ideal 12 litres per minute restrictor in both shower hoses. Without the restrictor the shower is fierce. Too powerful for us,
The upshot is I CAN run two very satisfactory showers at the same time. I can flush a toilet and not notice the difference in flow at the shower (one shower, not two .... I haven't tried two). I seem to be able to use the garden hose and run one shower similarly.
There's only two of us and the system seems absolutely fine.
I know Bernard won't want to hear the above but I can only speak as I find. Others with substantially less pressure and or flow will have a different experience I expect. And there's no immersion heater to fall back on (before he mentions it). As it happens after ordering the boiler I did turn the immersion on for no particular reason .... and there was a bang and a flash due to the immersion cap being full of water. Closer inspection showed it was decidely manky and must have been letting by for a good while without me noticing.
There were some on here who said I'd wasted my time and effort by running the separate 22mm from the main cold water inlet before it fed the rest of the house. They might be right and perhaps it makes no difference and the system would work just as well if I'd fed the boiler further up the house. We will never know.
I can say with some certainty though ... it's great not having the stuff in the loft and airing cupboard. I've tidied both areas up, had the installers fit a radiator in the cupboard and fitted a 40 watt Dimplex tubular heater in the cupboard and the wife is happy that theres now somewhere to store two vacuum cleaners, an ironing board, a telescopic loft ladder plus a few other bits and bobs.
All seems OK as we speak.
I repeat the thanks I offered in the other thread for the views, assistance and interest in the ( too much) time I spent deliberating on what to replace the Classic with.
Ideal Vogue combi. Range rating, or the lack of ......
Have you ever seen the maniold that supplies your 10mm, Ltnman? Does it look anything like the photo? It's not my manifold but I simply wonder what mine looks like. Mine serves both up and down and goes behind dot and dab, like yours. No never, all pipework runs up from the ground floor and...
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I've provided a lovely new cold feed going exclusively to a new combi. A quick question.
I'm making plans and preparations for a new combi to replace a heat only vented system. Likely a 32kw Vogue with plenty pressure, flow and gas. As we speak I'm not committed and have made no promises and haven't invested much money into the venture. Lots of head scratching and indecision though...
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But there's often conversations here about whether or not a combi will serve two simultaneous showers and I can now speak from personal experience having had my Ideal in for a couple of weeks. Admittedly in the middle of summer when the incoming water is warmer than in Jan or Feb.
I did make a post, some time ago, in which I said I was going to supply the combi with a specific 22mm supply taken directly after where the incoming 25mm MDPE enters the house (under the sink in the kitchen) going straight to the boiler...... I said I would provide the aforementioned supply with a Reliance drop tight 22mm pressure reducing valve and a Pegler full bore isolating lever valve. I also said I've provided a 28mm gas supply serving the boiler only (reduced to 22mm for the last feww metres.) I would have also said the pressure and flow to the house is excellent.
There are two Mira 903 thermostatic mixers - one in the bathroom, one in the en-suite. They used to be fed by gravity from the tank in the loft and the water heated by a 28 year old Ideal Classic cast iron 50,000 boiler and a copper cylinder in the airing cupboard.
All that is now gone.
The Mira mixers have a selector on the back for LOW pressure or HIGH pressure. It's now on HIGH. I've fitted an Ideal 12 litres per minute restrictor in both shower hoses. Without the restrictor the shower is fierce. Too powerful for us,
The upshot is I CAN run two very satisfactory showers at the same time. I can flush a toilet and not notice the difference in flow at the shower (one shower, not two .... I haven't tried two). I seem to be able to use the garden hose and run one shower similarly.
There's only two of us and the system seems absolutely fine.
I know Bernard won't want to hear the above but I can only speak as I find. Others with substantially less pressure and or flow will have a different experience I expect. And there's no immersion heater to fall back on (before he mentions it). As it happens after ordering the boiler I did turn the immersion on for no particular reason .... and there was a bang and a flash due to the immersion cap being full of water. Closer inspection showed it was decidely manky and must have been letting by for a good while without me noticing.
There were some on here who said I'd wasted my time and effort by running the separate 22mm from the main cold water inlet before it fed the rest of the house. They might be right and perhaps it makes no difference and the system would work just as well if I'd fed the boiler further up the house. We will never know.
I can say with some certainty though ... it's great not having the stuff in the loft and airing cupboard. I've tidied both areas up, had the installers fit a radiator in the cupboard and fitted a 40 watt Dimplex tubular heater in the cupboard and the wife is happy that theres now somewhere to store two vacuum cleaners, an ironing board, a telescopic loft ladder plus a few other bits and bobs.
All seems OK as we speak.
I repeat the thanks I offered in the other thread for the views, assistance and interest in the ( too much) time I spent deliberating on what to replace the Classic with.
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