Installing new light fixture

[Kasue1993]

Hi all, l’m new here so apologies if l’ve posted in the wrong place.

I’m not an electrician by any means but I’m trying to install a new light fixture which l bought from habitat. It only has a live wire and neutral wire and is class 2, double insulated. My current issue is my old ceiling pendant has an earth wire, how l cant l safely install this while securing the earth wire?

I’ve read about wago’s but will these completely close this wire connection off and make it safe?

 

[pete01]

If the wiring at your light has more than 1 cable it isn't going to be easy to install, you'll need to use a junction box above the ceiling (if possible) with 1 x 2 core cable entering into the light connecting to connection block.

 

[Kasue1993]

My current light has an earth, live and neutral wire. It’s mainly just the earth wire l’m trying to terminate to make the fixture safe.

 

[terryplumb]

Show us a pic of the supply cable that you intend to connect to new light, and what ( if anything) it currently connects to at the ceiling ( not the light fitting end )

 

[pete01]

Can you not just keep it inside the white box covered with earth sleeving?

 

[Kasue1993]

So this is how the current light is wired into the ceiling.
And the last photo is the connection in the new fitting which already has the live and neutral wires in situ.

 

[terryplumb]

You should make the wiring connections in a suitable junction box that can sit above the ceiling ,and connect from it a 2 core flex direct to the light fittings terminal box.

 

[Murdochcat]

You should make the wiring connections in a suitable junction box that can sit above the ceiling ,and connect from it a 2 core flex direct to the light fittings terminal box.

Not sure I agree with that. You appear to have a single twin and Earth cable coming out of the ceiling. So using lever wagos connect the live to live, neutral to neutral and earth/CPC on its own and those connections can sit behind the new light and ceiling

 

[terryplumb]

The new fitting is class 2. Putting other cables within it's baseplate that are not double insulated ,and just terminated in wago's would render it no longer class two.
Fitting them in a suitable junction box above the fitting ,in the ceiling void is fine.

 

[Murdochcat]

The new fitting is class 2. Putting other cables within it's baseplate that are not double insulated ,and just terminated in wago's would render it no longer class two.
Fitting them in a suitable junction box above the fitting ,in the ceiling void is fine.

Sorry but I disagree with you

Countless installations like this are in continued service using good old choc block - which in my experience is far less reliable that Wago 221

And OP bear in mind that to make a hole in the ceiling big enough for an enclosure for the cable as suggested above might mean you have a hole which isn’t covered by the new light fitting

 

[terryplumb]

Sorry but I disagree with you

Countless installations like this are in continued service using good old choc block - which in my experience is far less reliable that Wago 221

If the fitting was not class 2 it would be fine to make the connections within the base plate and earth it.
You are perfectly free to disagree Murdo ,no need to apologise . I have seen plenty of incorrectly installations too .

 

[Ragnar_AT]

There are two T&E cables with one red wrapped in brown tape and both earths twisted together. These earths need to stay connected.

 

[pete01]

If it was me I'd take the earth clamp thing off the nut on the old light and fit it to the new light so it can be earthed.

Then wagos or connector blocks can sit in the base, no jb required.

I dislike these crappy class 2 fittings.