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It's not about generating extra revenue

What people seem to forget is no matter how good their car is they won't be able to disobey the laws of physics when some numpty pulls into their lane...you won't be able to stop...and then believe me...it will be all tears.

I've told them that before and about reaction times - but they won't listen. They like speeding. It's adult yob culture.

Jeez, you must be fun in the pub. Did you vote Labour? :roll:
 
What people seem to forget is no matter how good their car is they won't be able to disobey the laws of physics when some numpty pulls into their lane...you won't be able to stop...and then believe me...it will be all tears.

I've told them that before and about reaction times - but they won't listen. They like speeding. It's adult yob culture.

I think that anybody would agree that doing 65 down an urban road in daytime with people about is murderous. The gist of this thread was about speeding on deserted motorways in the middle of the night, which seems to me to render both of the above arguments irrelevant.
 
I've told them that before and about reaction times - but they won't listen. They like speeding. It's adult yob culture.

I've got the perfect mental picture of you. I'd say 55 'ish, you love your Saga holidays, avid radio 4 listener in an average 3 bed semi with a caravan on the drive as well as your low emissions baby seen here below that you wash every Sunday before Songs of praise.

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65 mph on a motorway with one lane coned off is NO worse than doing 70mph on a dual carriageway IMO.
why can't the limit not be raised to 70mph, oh maybe because people see a nice clear road in good conditions and think , great can make loads of money here.
joe 90 if you say you've never broke the speed limit, then i'm sorry but a believe you to be a liar, or do you just preach what you don't practice,
can i have a go in your lambo and i promise to speed and you can keep it lol
 
I don't knowingly break it. Occasionally I do but only by a few MPH and when I realise I slow down again.
 
I've told them that before and about reaction times - but they won't listen. They like speeding. It's adult yob culture.
Well Joe, my bike will stop from 70 in a shorter distance than yours at 30. Add in to the mix that bike riders tend to be more alert - through having to keep out of the way from drivers such as you - and therefore tend to have pretty good reaction times and that bikes cause 9 times less damage in an accident than a car at the same speed. Seems quite reasonable to me, nothing yobbish at all. Mind you, I did do 138 (indicated, so probably only around the 126 mark in reality...) on the bypass near mine on Saturday, just couldn't help myself when it came to accelerating off the roundabout...ok I'm a yob after all then :lol: :lol:
 
I don't knowingly break it...
And neither did Sooey, but it didn't stop you getting on your high horse and berating him for having done so, did it? :roll:

A question Guiseppe, just ooi: how many accidents have you had over the course of your driving career? And how many of them would you be willing to admit to being down to you?
 
What people seem to forget is no matter how good their car is they won't be able to disobey the laws of physics when some numpty pulls into their lane...you won't be able to stop...and then believe me...it will be all tears.

I've told them that before and about reaction times - but they won't listen. They like speeding. It's adult yob culture.

I think that anybody would agree that doing 65 down an urban road in daytime with people about is murderous. The gist of this thread was about speeding on deserted motorways in the middle of the night, which seems to me to render both of the above arguments irrelevant.

I thought the gist of this thread was about the explanation of the offence, but who am I to comment, as another user has already stated, I do my job badly :roll:
 
Sensible and safe driving (and riding) has nothing to do with reaction times.

Anticipation is the key. I can't remember the last time I was surprised on a bike. In a car - yes, because I get lazy and let my mind wander, but never on a bike. If you know what you're doing you can anticipate the most bizarre things long before they happen, and thus avoid them. You can even prevent a lot of them.
 
Well, Softy me ol' mucker, I am at one with you over that. Bikers make better drivers - official. Personally, I think that all learner drivers should have a spell on a bike as part of their training, might help to make them slightly more aware of goings-on outside their cocoon...
 
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