Kitchen light suggestions

[JohnW2]

The major gain in lumens/watt seems to be from incandescent to led .As already said ,obvious enough when you upgrade bulbs.

Very much so. I have plenty of rooms lit with 10-15 W ofLEDs that were previously lit with 60 - 120 Wof incandescents.

Not so much from fluorescent to led batten ....

It seems that what is being sugested to me is "Not at all", rather than "Not so much", since I'm being told that I need 60-80 W of LEDs on a ceiling to replace the previous 58 W fluoro

.... as fluorescent was already fairly efficient

In view of the first bit above, I'm not sure that can explain a lot of it.

Way more light from a 2*58w fluorescent than a 120w incandescent lamp

Doesn't that just 'make things worse'? If one can replace a 120 W incandescent with, say, 15 W or so iof LED dangling in a pendant (the approx. equivalent of what is happened in many of my rooms), why am I being told that I will ned 60+ W of LED if those LEDs are in a fitting on the ceiling?

I remain confused

 

[mikehammer69]

I'm not really seeing any major issue

If you choose to fit a 60w led batten it will be a helluva lot brighter than a 13 w led bulb

Whether it will appear to be 6x brighter i dont know

The 60w batten would be way too bright for me anyhow I’ve a combination of a 9w bulb on a pir for all the quick kitchen visits and a 13w bulb for more light when working in kitchen

I like very bright lighting in only a few places .Under the stairs , the attic and the shed . All of which I don’t spend much time in.

I recently changed all the bedroom bulbs from 100w equivalent down to 60w equivalent as they were uncomfortably bright for me

 

[JohnW2]

I'm not really seeing any major issue

You say that, but what you then go on to say makes we 'wonder'! You went on to write:

If you choose to fit a 60w led batten it will be a helluva lot brighter than a 13 w led bulb .... Whether it will appear to be 6x brighter i dont know ... The 60w batten would be way too bright for me anyhow I’ve a combination of a 9w bulb on a pir for all the quick kitchen visits and a 13w bulb for more light when working in kitchen

I have the same problem, which I might of thought was a fairly 'major issue' for both of us! As I've said, I personally regard the kitchen in question as being 'reasonably well lit' by the present 17 W of LED (a 5' retrofit LED tube), but am being old that I probably need 60 W (2x30), 72 W (2x36), 80 W (2x40) or even 100 W (2x50) to replace it. I don't really understand that and, like you, fear that it may be 'far too bright'.

I like very bright lighting in only a few places .Under the stairs , the attic and the shed . All of which I don’t spend much time in. I recently changed all the bedroom bulbs from 100w equivalent down to 60w equivalent as they were uncomfortably bright for me

Similar here. Are 'they' perhaps very different from'us'? !!

What I have agreed with from the very start is that the present arrangement of a single 5' (1.5m) light fitting in the middle of a 5m-long room is not ideal (shadows etc. ) so would be inclined to replace it with two (probably each about 'quarter or so of the way from the end' along the length of the room. However, rather than 2 x 5' fittings (hence wattages as above), maybe 2 x 2' ones (probably 20-40W total ) or 2 x 4', or even 3 x 2' ??

However, I have discovered a couple of partial 'saving graces'.
Firstly in seems that things described as 'LED panels' are generally pretty wide (commonly 600 mm), which I don't really want (I want 'length', because of the length of the room, rather than breadth), but a good few of the things described as 'LED battens' are, in fact, not the 'industrial-looking things that look as if they should contain tube(s) (but don't) which I don't find very aesthetically-pleasing but, rather look a bit more like 'panels' to me - so I probably have more choice than I thought. Secondly, having investigated the routing of the switch wiring, it doesn't look as if it would be too much of job to install separate switching for two or more lights on the ceiling.

What do you think?