Learning how to Quote

[coolcatkelso]

Hiya guys

Anyone tell me if this price per m2 would be right, roughly?

£104.10 per m2

This would include, dress / hole slates, fix underlay and install slates?

based on 2 Tradesmen and 1 labour

Trade @ £8.00p/h
Labourer @ £6.50 p/h

Just trying to learn how to quote

Area is Scottish Borders

 

[noseall]

We learn from our mistakes.

....feeel the force......

 

[Alastairreid]

Labour is way too cheap!!!!

 

[Cumbrianroofer30yrsexp]

Labour is way too cheap!!!!

Way way way too cheap.£40 per hour for a time served roofer,anything less you might as well work for someone else and not put up with all the grief of running your own company.

 

[Cumbrianroofer30yrsexp]

An easy way would be work out how long the job is going to take,price the materials etc then add £300 per day for your labour,then add a few quid on for the unexpected(not alot,just abit so you have a bit of lee way).You also should have a minimum charge ie if you got to replace one slate and it takes you 10 mins you cannot just charge 10 mins labour,My minimum charge is £100 if im called out to do a repair up to 1 hours labour,what you must take into account is you must travel,there,back and pay who ever is with you.If im on a job and the person next door or down the road wants a slate or a few slates in and your already there thats a different matter,then its just a bit of pocket money,say £40.Also dont give free estimates if the house is for sale,thats a roof survey which is not free.

 

[coolcatkelso]

Thanks for the help guys

So Cumbrianroofer you say charge a minimum fee of £100, this would be £100 charge + travel for anything less than an hours work then after an hour, you charge at the usual rate say £25.00 per hour?

My boss currently charges £25.00 for me and £15.00 per hour for the apprentice, but I get paid £8.50 and apprentice is £5.00.. Not a bad profit he makes on us lol

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

My boss currently charges £25.00 for me and £15.00 per hour for the apprentice, but I get paid £8.50 and apprentice is £5.00.. Not a bad profit he makes on us lol

But out of that he has to pay his wages, advertise, quote jobs, pay your tax/NI etc etc etc.

 

[joinerjohn]

My boss currently charges £25.00 for me and £15.00 per hour for the apprentice, but I get paid £8.50 and apprentice is £5.00.. Not a bad profit he makes on us lol

But out of that he has to pay his wages, advertise, quote jobs, pay your tax/NI etc etc etc.

The employer , although liable for employers national insurance payments, actually stops the employees tax and NI contributions out of the employees wages. (cost to employer nil , unless you take into account the couple of minutes spent on a computer calculating the tax and NI).
BTW, my last employer used to charge almost £40 per hour per employee on shopfits. (we were lucky to get £10 an hour)

If your pricing this job up as a weekend job, foreigner, barrow job etc etc. Then take your employers charge as a starting point. £40 per hour (for 2 employees).
Knock a bit off (say £10 per hour). That leaves £20 ph for you and £10 ph for your labrador.
I sincerely hope your customer is paying for the materials? Been caught out a few times with customers who have the work done then refuse to pay.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

If the OP is getting £8.50 per hour before tax he's better off finding something else!

 

[Cumbrianroofer30yrsexp]

If the OP is getting £8.50 per hour before tax he's better off finding something else!

I agree,i pay £150 per day to my old man who works for me(3 days a week) but i laso pay subbies that same when i need them.Bear in mind your boss has to make sumin on you otherwise what the point but @ £8.50 per he sounds like greedy so and so.Why not buy a van,bang an advert in the yellow pages and tell your boss to stick it?Work one day a week and you will make the same as you make doing a week for your boss,almost?Once you do it for yourself i guarantee you wont ever work for anyone else again.