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We don't have dogs.

In my early life licking the plate was a punishable crime, however when I met Missus Sunray there was also a 17 year old Miss Sunray in tow, she and her boyfriend fairly quickly taught me the art of turning the plate against the tongue rather than dragging the tongue across the plate (y) :p:p

I habitually, never clear a plate, there is always some food left - which the dog used to get.
 
To put it another way: with one eye I see this <image> with the other I see this <image.
As I wrote before, that's as expected - simply 'parallax'.
and both together I see this albeit the text will appear across the 2 pencils
That's what I don't understand. It sounds as if your brain is not dealing with 'binocular vision' as it should.

Even when something is 'in focus',the brain receives slightly different images from the two eyes, but processes them to produce a single perceived image. At least for me, the same is true with an object which is out-of-focus.
 
I habitually, never clear a plate, there is always some food left - which the dog used to get.
I don't think I've ever really done that, but I was taught that is what I should do - since if one clears a plate, it suggests that one was probably not given enough food, hence 'rude'!
 
I don't think I've ever really done that, but I was taught that is what I should do - since if one clears a plate, it suggests that one was probably not given enough food, hence 'rude'!

Exactly what I was sometimes taught. At other times, I would be ridiculed as ungrateful for leaving anything.
 
It's not 'my test'. It's the standard test of eye dominance that I was first taught over 50 years ago and which remains one of the standard tests today. As for 'what it is supposed to achieve', I thought I had adequately explained and illustrated that way back in post #24 on page 2. However, maybe the more detailed diagram below will help you to understand...

As I explained, when, with both eyes open one concentrates/focusses on an object, one's dominant eye looks directly towards it ('perpendicular' to one's face), whilst the non-dominant one rotates towards the dominant one in order to also look at that object. Hence, if one concentrates/focusses on a distant object and aligns a finger (held at arm's length) with that distant object, the situation is per the left-hand bit of diagram below, and one hence obviously sees the finger and distant object to be aligned (since that iis how one has positioned one's finger!).

If, without moving one's head or finger, one closes one's non-dominant eye, nothing actually changes. The dominant eye is still looking directly forwards at both the finger and distant object, which are therefore still seen as aligned - as in middle bit of diagram.

However, if (again without moving head or finger) one closes one's dominant eye, then the non-dominant one, looking a little 'sideways' towards the dominant side, sees finger and distant objects at different angles, hence being seen as laterally separated, not 'aligned'.

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This afternoon we had a lovely social gathering in a neighbours garden, the sight of 10 people of 70 to 84 years holding their hand up with one finger raised must have been comical...

I asked them to focus on someone elses nose which would have been 6-8 feet away and hold that focus then raise one finger into the view in front of the others nose then report what they saw. All but one simply announced seeing 2 fingers then 2 faces when asked to focus on their finger.

Asking the 'odd one out' to do the dominant eye routine...

"Blithering idiot, I'll not see much wi' me glass eye.'

Then asked all the others, including reading the instructions directly your post and from one of the on-line tests, and not a single one could come up with anything near the sort of result expected on here, some asked which finger to line up with.

Comments such as April fool followed.

So all but the one eyed guy don't have a dominant eye, or it it the joke or BS I thought it was when first mooted?
 
I definitely get the dominant eye thing when swapping between L closed and R closed, and with one closed I don't get the "double vision".

With both eyes open I do, with or without glasses.
 
This afternoon we had a lovely social gathering in a neighbours garden, the sight of 10 people of 70 to 84 years holding their hand up with one finger raised must have been comical...
I'm more-or-less in the middle of that age range, so that group should certainly be 'representative' of me!
I asked them to focus on someone elses nose which would have been 6-8 feet away and hold that focus then raise one finger into the view in front of the others nose then report what they saw. All but one simply announced seeing 2 fingers then 2 faces when asked to focus on their finger.
I must be going mad, because I really don't get it ...

• As I wrote before, there's nothing special about fingers and clocks (or noses). They could be any objects at any distance.
• One's eyes can only focus on one distance at a time. That means that, in normal life, the great majority of what is in one's field of vision will be out-of-focus.
• You appear to be saying that anything which is not in-focus appears 'duplicated'. Per the above, that would mean that, in normal life, the great majority of things in one's field of view would be duplicated - which, if true, would surely be a nightmare, and certainly not something that I've ever experienced, or heard of anyone else experience (other than when there has been 'something wrong with their eyes and/or brain).​

What am I missing?
Then asked all the others, including reading the instructions directly your post and from one of the on-line tests, and not a single one could come up with anything near the sort of result expected on here, some asked which finger to line up with.
That might, of course, be one issue. If they really are seeing two fingers, then they might not be lining up the right one for the dominance test to work properly. Indeed, depending upon the reason for them seeing two fingers, it could be that lining up neither of the fingers would result in the test working properly.
So all but the one eyed guy don't have a dominant eye, or it it the joke or BS I thought it was when first mooted?
What you seem to have been observing is simply all wrong. The vast majority of people DO have a dominant eye, just as the vast majority have a dominant hand etc.
 
I definitely get the dominant eye thing when swapping between L closed and R closed
Thank goodness for that ... at least I'm not going totally mad :-)
, and with one closed I don't get the "double vision".
This 'double vision' /'duplicated objects' thing must be related to the fact that there are two eyes, so it certainly wouldn't/couldn't happen with only one eye open.
With both eyes open I do, with or without glasses.
As will be apparent from other things I've written, I remain mystified.
 
It can be, but it can also be due to a problem in the brain resulting in it not combining the two (slightly different) images from the two eyes correctly.
Okay but how is the brain supposed to interpret what it sees as 2 pencils?

If the 2 pencils apparent were equally spaced each side of the nose should the brain do the mix and place then in the centre and obscure the nose?
If so if the 2 pencils really are 2 actual physical pencils should it interpret that as one?
 
Okay but how is the brain supposed to interpret what it sees as 2 pencils?

It wouldn't (shouldn't) - the brain sees two, slightly different views, from two converging angles, which it interprets as one view. The converging angles between the two eyes, provide a clue of distance away from the viewer.

If the 2 pencils apparent were equally spaced each side of the nose should the brain do the mix and place then in the centre and obscure the nose?
If so if the 2 pencils really are 2 actual physical pencils should it interpret that as one?

No, two pencils would be seen as two pencils - the reason being that the angles of the eyes, would confirm there were two, and almost certainly there would be differences in the two pencils themselves.

Eyes/brain though can often be very easily fooled, to make the wrong assumptions about what it is seeing.
 
Okay but how is the brain supposed to interpret what it sees as 2 pencils?
It's not supposed to see one pencil as two pencils and, as far as I am concerned doesn't do that.
If the 2 pencils apparent were equally spaced each side of the nose should the brain do the mix and place then in the centre and obscure the nose?
As I've said, one should not perceive two apparent pencils, so I can't really answer that.

As for the images from the two eyes received from the brain, as I illustrated in my diagrams, in the image the brain receives from the dominant eye, the image of the pencil will, indeed, overlie that of the nose, whilst in the one from the dominant eye the image of the finger will be laterally displaced from that of the nose. However, when the brain processes those two images, that results in what is perceived as being a single finger overlying the nose (which is, of course, how I told you that the finger should be positioned).
If so if the 2 pencils really are 2 actual physical pencils should it interpret that as one?
That's a silly suggestion. We're talking about images of actual physical objects. If there are 1, 2, 20 or 200 physical pencils, what is perceived should be 1, 2, 20 or 200 pencils respectively
 

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