Mandatory ID cards (Brit Card) to be announced tomorrow

[motorbiking]

People, including especially those in this forum, don't like change, don't like anything new. I have used digital payments for years, one single failure, of one digital card in all of that time, and easily resolved.

It's not about being resistant to change. I'd have no problem with a digital passport app, for example.

Once you create one single source of ID, via a mandatory scheme and announce how secure it will be, you create a nice target for criminals and rogue states.

 

[Deluks]

passport is not cheap just to have in case.

It's cheaper than having a passport and a digital ID.

Even if it's issued for free, as stated, it will cost billions to implement. That's our money, and many people would rather it was spent elsewhere.

What's the point of an ID system being required for a country where you can't access your GP, can't get an NHS dentist, and there are no jobs. All because the government have invested in the wrong areas.

 

[Alec_t]

Putting all one's eggs in one basket does seem like a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Deluks]

Starmer says today "people will not be able to work in the UK without a digital ID"

What about the self employed? Do I need to prove to myself who I am, to enable me to go and work for myself?

 

[IT Minion]

Any digital service of size would be just as much of a target.

The additional benefit of being able to compromise a unified UK ID system over 'just' a passport system wouldn't make any difference to the groups or effort made to target it. Both are so large/valuable it's immaterial.

With a digital ID service you can't steal someone's driving license and use it to get a new bank account or credit cards in their names. You can't fake a passport. You can track who has checked the system to prove that ID checks have been performed so people employing people illegally have done so knowingly.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

I already have an ID card and am on a database thanks, my driving license.
Police can easily check that.

So I'll not be paying for any other card.

I'm against any compulsory ID cards for - certainly anything imposed by citizen Starmer with bs motives like controlling immigration. However, if imposed they should be for anyone who doesn't have another official form of ID, eg. passports or driving licences. Otherwise it's just doubling up.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

You cant abolish cash I would have a dirty car and long hair

And starve through lack of takeaways.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Great idea. Flag shaggers will be black balled.

How will you put your Palestinian and Pride flags up?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Starmer says today "people will not be able to work in the UK without a digital ID"

I'm guessing a large percentage of Labour supporters don't work anyway.

 

[Deluks]

From the BBC today:

The PM also said:

• It has been "too easy" for people to "slip into the shadow economy and remain here illegally"

Translation:It has been too easy for people to slip into the UK and remain here illegally, because we've done nothing about it.

• Britain has been "squeamish" about the topic of illegal migration

Translation: The Labour party has been too squeamish about the topic of illegal migration, whilst the rest of the country have been screaming about it (sometimes quite literally) to the point where they are now prepared to give their votes to populist parties much further to the right.

• The country's problems won't be solved "if we don't take on the root causes"

Translation: Making everyone have a digital ID will clearly tackle the root causes of our country's problems, and isn't just a hare-brained distraction thought up by bureaucrats who haven't got a clue how the real world operates.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

What's the point of an ID system being required for a country where you can't access your GP, can't get an NHS dentist, and there are no jobs. All because the government have invested in the wrong areas.

Then perhaps it ought to have been invested in earlier, then it could have helped us avoid all this flood of immigrants, and health tourists, saving the UK a lot of money in the meantime?

 

[denso13]

You'll need it for whatever they deem you need it for.
Need to collect a parcel from the post office? Want to buy a few beers from Lidl?
Want a gym membership?
Want to ride the gravy train?
Want to have a cigar?

Are you scared to get out of bed in the morning? You are out of bed, aren't you?

 

[Deluks]

I'm guessing a large percentage of Labour supporters don't work anyway.

That's naive, the few people I know who don't work lean further to the right.
All my avid Labour supporting friends have decent jobs.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Translation:It has been too easy for people to slip into the UK and remain here illegally, because we've done nothing about it.

Tick!

Translation: The Labour party has been too squeamish about the topic of illegal migration, whilst the rest of the country have been screaming about it (sometimes quite literally) to the point where they are now prepared to give their votes to populist parties much further to the right.

Tick!

Translation: Making everyone have a digital ID will clearly tackle the root causes of our country's problems, and isn't just a hare-brained distraction thought up by bureaucrats who haven't got a clue how the real world operates.

X !

 

[denso13]

How will you put your Palestinian and Pride flags up?

Sorry, I don't own such things. thanks for asking though, good discussion.