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Monitoring a house with an elderly person living there.

Discussion in 'Home Automation' started by ericmark, 13 Sep 2017 at 9:14 PM.

  1. ericmark

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    My mothers house already has many items fitted to monitor her activities to ensure she comes to no harm.

    Now it seems I need similar for my father-in-law, I have made mistakes with my mother, I don't want to repeat these errors.

    The camera a Motorola used the Hubble web which goes down a tad too often. The idea is good, we can look in the room to see if all is OK, we can hear anything said in the room, see the temperature, and speak to anyone in the room, however the delay between sound send and receive means can't use it for a chat, and the camera is not that wide of an angle so it has motors to move it around, but jumps quite a bit, so one little touch and it moves too far.

    The alarms are on a remote socket so it auto switches on and off to allow carers to come and go with setting off the alarms, however found the Mihome Energenie sockets limited to three times a day, and we have four sets of carers a day, can use IFTTT to get another, but it had to be on the hour or half hour so ended up being for too long of a period.

    The alarms were fitted by social services, however not what one would call user friendly, since designed to wake us up, they have to be upstairs, that is also where the reset button is located, however during the day when some one comes to the door, running upstairs to switch off alarm then down again to open door is not really convenient. Hence the remote control socket, to start with I tried using a plug in remote but too often it did not reset pushing the button, and also tried a timer but there were callers in the on time which were not catered for the socket combines both and so worked better.

    For my father-in-law we have a few problems including setting central heating far too high, and switching off sockets supplying the phone. Daft tricks like cans of coka-cola and eggs in the freezer. Regular visits is really the answer, but at the moment social services will not visit and my wife also has my mother.

    So looking for ideas, I think first thing is to get internet set up again. But then what to use I am not sure.
     
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    Short of 24/7 supervision you are not going to be able to stop that happening. And that would not be possible without a live in carer or moving the person into a care home.

    Total monitoring can be seen by an elderly person as a serious infringement of their liberty and/or privacy. That infringement can create hostility which creates more problems to deal with.

    What exactly do you need to achieve and what response time is possible ?.

    For some people at risk a flow detector in the water supply and a 12 hour timer is all that is needed. If no water is used for 12 hours then the alarm is raised. Latency of 12 hours before detection may be too long for a person prone to falls or other incidents.

    Shorter latency can be achieved with PIR sensors that the person knows are for a burglar alarm. ( which may be there as well ) but are connected to timers which raise an alarm if a couple of hours go by without any motion being detected. Covert motion detection may be mecessary of the person oblect to being monitored.
     
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    Some good ideas, we all realise there is nothing like 24/7 care, but can't do two parents in two separate houses at the same time. We tried over Christmas bringing the two together, but father-in-law went on walk about although asked not to, while mother was being washed and changed. So we have 7 miles between houses, that's from mothers to father-in-law 1 hour plus by public transport, 20 minutes to 1/2 hour by car, 40 minutes on push bike. The other direction push bike 15 minutes. And in middle of night by car is quicker but of course we must dress.

    There are two other people for my father-in-law, however distance is a problem, they both tend to visit other countries so being in German or Huston USA is common for them, so not an even split on caring duties, however they have done things like remove internet as they said he does not need it any more, which now it seems he does so we can monitor.

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    will detect him moving, however until you actually buy one and pair it to a hub not really a clue as to how it can be used. This was the problem with the socket, we already had the eTRV which allowed us to program in as many events as we wanted, we thought the socket would be the same, but once installed found limited to three timed events without using IFTTT. Hence asking questions, some one may come up and say either this make was great or don't use these because etc.
     

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