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Mother of twins mauled by fox is threatened

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lincsbodger, 13 Jun 2010.

  1. JohnD

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    so how many fox attacks on humans do you have evidence of?



    Jeez, dont you hate bumpkins who think they know about urban wildlife................
     
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  3. Lincsbodger

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    Well clearly at least one, its not something i actually go out my way to record. I do know
    a) foxes wont normally come with 100 yards of a human, and the only way urban foxes can is by conquering there fear of man, and
    b) foxes will attack things for fun that they have no fear of, such as chickens, and
    c) theres at least 5 foxes round that house, that
    d) clearly have no fear of man as witnessed by the photos so therefore
    e) it doesnt need a massive leap of faith to imagine such an urban fox with no fear of man doing exactly to a human house with babies what its country cousins do naturally to a hen house with chickens.

    What do you want, a signed confession from the fox?

    FFS, use your common sense here.........
     
  4. Bilioustrumpstaine

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    It is possible that the events were almost as described by the family, personally I think that there are some elements of truth that are not being shared.

    Urban foxes are very bold, I have seen them enter communal stairwells in search of food but under normal circumstances they will avoid a direct confrontation with a human.

    If they keep the traps in the garden they will still be catching foxex in a years time as foxes have territories which they mark with their scent on a regular basis. Failure to maintain this scent boundary indicates that the territory is vacant to another fox and they will take it over.

    When a fox gets into a hen house and slaughters all the chickens it intends to come back to collect the rest, if undisturbed it will bury the chickens left behind usually leaving just the feet sticking out of the ground. In reality the chickens make such a racket that the fox is spooked by them or the resulting human attention the noise attracts.

    Culling all urban foxes because one has behaved oddly would be like culling all taxi drivers in Cumbria.

    Urban foxes need controlling in an organised manner, trapping and then shooting them is quite humane. Problem is one mans pest is another mans furry visitor that gets fed.
     
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    Yes John, you know the ones? They're from 'broken 13th century countries', to quote a minister........what's his name? Ah yes, Fox, Liam Fox.

    Oh no, that's another one they will want to cull! :(
     
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    Only if they are women drivers/bird's.
     
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    you don't know what the word "species" means then?
     
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    some thing does not seem right about this whole afair to me ?? but it will no doubt give some an excuse to go on some type of cull , as for the farmer's alway's looking for some excuse to kill badger's fox's ect , they did there best to contaminate most of the population with B.S.E , salmonela , feed pigs sewage, inject animals with all sort's of drug's in order to make em grow quicker ! spray insecticide's all over the place hence bee's & bird's are on the decrease ect & some how they are viewed as keeper's of the country side , you could'nt make it up !!
     
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    Many of the things you list were carried out by Defra, totally against the farmer's wishes (and in the case of the BSE cull has been demonstrated to have been completely unnecessary in its magnitude) . The food (swill) was passed as fit for purpose by government agencies, and chemnicals are used after they have been given a licence.

    It's somewhat unfair to blame the farmers - they have been dealt with harshly over the last three decades.

    As for the farmers wanting to cull badgers, it's not entirely unreasonable since badgers have a habit of infecting livestock with TB, which leads to painful death and the meat (or milk)being unsuitable for human consumption. And foxes have a habit of killing livestock (which affects us all)
     
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    I've noticed that.

    Why have you only been thanked once, trumpstaine?
     
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    Has there not been a report recently that said the TB infection was the other way about and cattle where giving the badgers it;
    Ever wonder why you see so many dead badgers at side of the road.
    Would not have anything to do with the farmer killing them and disposing of the body where it gets completly squished and no evidence.


    As for some of the comments on here that foxes would /could not have done this .
    unbelievably niave.

    Can just see the coppers walking past the family fido whith blood dripping from its face and saying right where is the fox then.
    Does the family even have a dog
     
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    According to Micky, it's swimming with the fishes :rolleyes:
     
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    Are farms that small and are they inspected that closely?
     
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    I was just walking home this evening (I live in the country) with my terrier dog and just about to cross the small stream separating my land from the adjoining land and came within 20 feet of a badger.
    He looked at me sniffing with his nose. Sizing me up I guess.
    First time I ever saw one. (apart from dead on the road that is)

    My dog had already crossed the stream and bizarrely didn't spot the badger.
    I hurried across the stream and gave way to Mr Badger.
     
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    We've got one or two badgers living in our area of Bristol. Haven't savaged any kids yet, so they are safe for now. Not sure that I would want our tabby to meet one on a dark night though.

    Suppose at the end of the day, our houses are built on land that was once inhabited by rural foxes and badgers. We turned them into suburban foxes by man's relentless expansion. Same thing all over the world, human population growth comes at the cost of the wildlife.
     
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    I don't remember seeing any foxes in cities when I was growing up, whereas now they are a fairly common sight (I've never seen a badger though).

    I might be imagining it, but this seems to have become the case ever since the "ban" on fox hunting came about.
     
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