New High tech cameras to enforce 20mph roads

[JohnD]

Good to know that dangerous incompetents too stupid to take lessons, thinned themselves off the slopes so quickly.

With drivers, it usually takes longer.

 

[transam]

Good to know that dangerous incompetents too stupid to take lessons, thinned themselves off the slopes so quickly.

With drivers, it usually takes longer.

Drivers

How long did it take you ??

 

[fixitflav]

no road markings and don't flash.

Gatso cameras flash (from behind) but Truvelos have little or no flash.

 

[blup]

I blame Highwayman for all this.

 

[blup]

Travelling at 20 is difficult, but easier in an automatic

 

[Highway Man]

I blame Highwayman for all this.

this is bizzare but I fitted one in my street only 2 weeks ago.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It's annoying, it's dangerous - they risk running into your rear if you need to stop in a hurry, and it is a constant distraction for you, taking your attention away from the road ahead of you, and a serious worry if you dare, or need to brake hard.

Tailgaters are thick, ignorant, bullies or a combo of all three.

They seem oblivious to the fact that if, for whatever reason, you slammed the brakes on, they would rear end you.

Thick.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I drove around Wales last year. Nobody drives at 20, most just a bit below 30. If you actually drive at 20 you'll end up with a bootful of angry german-badged car drivers, a huge danger in itself.

30 was probably always a sensible limit. It just needs actually enforcing. I often feel endangered by tailgaters for doing 30 in a 30 limit.

I think 20/25 definitely makes sense in certain areas e.g. heavily built up housing estates with narrow-ish streets, vehicles parked both sides etc.

 

[Deluks]

Driving at 20mph is painfully slow, and frustrating to boot. (25mph seems much more sensible as a restricted speed) it just seems to be rolled out everywhere in London, and is clearly a money making scheme.

Note that none of his extra revenue has gone towards recruiting a new green cross code man. (RIP Dave)

 

[IT Minion]

You have to go quite hard in to the weeds to look at that.

... Or you read your own link, for killed it's chart 7.

No matching stats in the London specific document you linked earlier but it's a much briefer document. The interesting chart in there showed a more significant decrease in killed for London than the UK as a whole, although your point that the total number killed is low does mean that there's potential for that to be random chance.

I am not going to try to calculate the P value, but if 2025's numbers also have a higher decrease than the rest of the UK I think you will agree that London is doing something right.

 

[JohnD]

Travelling at 20 is difficult, but easier in an automatic

Some cars have automatic speed limiters to help drivers with poor foot control who lack speed sensitivity.

 

[blup]

Some cars have automatic speed limiters to help drivers with poor foot control who lack speed sensitivity.

Yes but it’s easier to use in non urban conditions

 

[motorbiking]

... Or you read your own link, for killed it's chart 7.

No matching stats in the London specific document you linked earlier but it's a much briefer document. The interesting chart in there showed a more significant decrease in killed for London than the UK as a whole, although your point that the total number killed is low does mean that there's potential for that to be random chance.

I am not going to try to calculate the P value, but if 2025's numbers also have a higher decrease than the rest of the UK I think you will agree that London is doing something right.

“Casualties” are not Killed if those figures by mode are correct.

What is driving London's result.
Reducing traffic?

 

[blup]

this is bizzare but I fitted one in my street only 2 weeks ago.

I reckon if Isreal can produce exploding pagers you will know how to disable the internet speed cameras

 

[motorbiking]

this is bizzare but I fitted one in my street only 2 weeks ago.

Have you ever been done by a camera you fitted?