Planning for driveway

[Gardennightmare2024]

Hi all
I’m confused about planning rules.
Does anyone know if a sloped driveway that slopes towards the house will need paid planning permission?
Builders and tarmac construction workers haven’t got a clue. They all say they didn’t know about the driveway rules.
Council dept not picking up phone.
So my broken driveway has been dug up and had to stop work because I think I need planning permission. The opening section by the dropped kerb is slightly sloped towards the house towards the side entrance of house. Rain water builds up towards side of house area. The other half of driveway is higher from the pavement no dropped kerb section. It slopes down from about about 18 inches from pavement towards the house. Water pools up obviously infront of house.
Can’t install soak away. Combine shared lateral sewerage system shallow underneath so no space for a soak away and it’s clay soil.
So if I have new tarmac laid will I need to apply on line for planning permission?
Anyone understand the rules ?
I’m confused because my driveway isn’t allowing surface water run off.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/pe.../paving-your-front-garden/planning-permission If the new driveway does not run off onto the highway (pavement) then you don't need planning permission. However if you cannot create a soakaway because of local ground conditions or are unable to adhere to minimum distances from the boundary for a soakaway then (theoretically) you should seek Building Control approval to connect into the sewer. Though many people drain into the sewer without getting permission. Photos may help .....

 

[Gardennightmare2024]

Hi Freddie
Yes I looked on the portal. The front garden is quite big 7m depth by 8m wide but the sewerage maps show lateral shared combined pipes going across the width, diagonal pipe and surface water pipe goes out straight across towards the pavement. Surface water pipe is very shallow clay pipe. Water company has visited and done a cctv because I thought the excess water was a cracked pipe but it isn’t. They think the main pipe runs all way along parallel with diagonal out towards the road. So I don’t think there is any safe space to be digging down 1 metre soak away crates. My house brickwork is always wet even though old driveway was half paved half gravel. I want to prevent water from sitting on front of house walls.

We pay our surface water bill so I don’t see how it’s fair that we have to pay councils for permission for drainage.

I bet nobody on my estate has paid driveway permission fees. Seeing lots of plastic kerb ramps around so people are getting away with stuff but my luck council would get me.

Too late to prove a dig water test. Builder laid the mot sub base.

If I apply and pay for driveway aco drainage to surface water pipe which is combined shared sewer will it likely be refused permission?

 

[Gardennightmare2024]

Hi all
Have another question
If highways road drain and pipes do not connect to water companies our property foul and surface water why do we have to apply to the council for permission for surface after drainage connection for driveway ? If we already pay water companies for surface water and highways within our bills.

 

[^woody^]

The only requirement for a driveway is that the rainwater runoff does not go into the public drainage system. That's it.

Building control have nothing to do with driveways.

 

[Gardennightmare2024]

Thanks Woody
Only I asked council and couldn’t get any answers. Water company said garden drainage is allowed. Can’t get any straight answers for any of my questions for any type of building works or who owns what boundaries from council.

 

[mrrusty]

Sounds to me from the experienced other posters, that you are safe just to get on with it and connect an ACCO drain to whatever drain is suitable to take it. I would.

 

[Gardennightmare2024]

Hi mate
Yeah if not I might dig down take some soil out by house and fill with shingle. Had the garden drive dug out 3.5 k ridiculous price and all tarmac price quotes are coming up over 4 k. 60 square metres area. It’s £60 plus a square metre. Think I will just gravel it for a few hundred quid. And I don’t think water company wants me digging soakaways by any sewer pipes. Their maps are old ones probably transferred from the council. They aren’t accurate maps. Council don’t have any highways maps. Water company think the sewers are separate to the highways pipes but nobody actually knows so if I get diggers digging deep they could end up smashing into one or more multiple pipes which could end up disastrous and expensive. So I think safer to just have new grey limestone gravel with those gravel grids. Save money for a small front porch instead of tarmac. Check a trade etc say tarmac is £40-£80 a square metre but I can’t find anyone for £40.