Plug in Door Bell.

[BQW]

Just purchased a wireless plug in door bell, it looks fairly well made but the plug in Bell part has no BS accreditation, just a tiny paper CE sticker. Since it plugs in to a 13A socket should it not have have a BS number ? Its for an elderly neighbour, we dont want any dodgy SMPS bursting into flames !

 

[mikehammer69]

What model is it or where did you buy it and a picture

BS and CE marks don't always mean much these days. You can print anything.

 

[BQW]

BS and CE marks don't always mean much these days. You can print anything.

That was what I was thinking, the CE mark is just a paper sticker, if its supposed to have a BS number, I will send it back. Bought off ebay from a trader.

 

[mikehammer69]

"Bought off ebay from a trader"

That's a bad start anyway but it might be ok

 

[endecotp]

if its supposed to have a BS number

It's not "supposed to have a BS number". It should probably have a UKCA logo. If it has a CE mark, I'd say that's fine - to the extent that you believe any of these self-certified marks mean anything.

Does the elderly neighbour have a smoke alarm?

 

[ebee]

it is often said that CE stands for Chinese Export , anyway do you trust everybody who self certifies their own product?

 

[morqthana]

it is often said that CE stands for Chinese Export ,

It's not unusual for incorrect things to be "often said".

anyway do you trust everybody who self certifies their own product?

What are the pros and cons of self-certification? - Certification Experts

Thinking about CE marking self-certification? Here’s what you should know. Before you can sell your product within the European Union, it must obtain the CE mark, meaning that it meets EU safety, health, and environmental protection standards. An important decision manufacturers are faced with...

certification-experts.com

 

[mikehammer69]

All the stuff coming from AliExpress or whatever direct to EU and UK customers

Surely they can print whatever marks they like without fear of consequences

 

[ericmark]

I know it should be marked BS 1363, so to hand I have a Lidi smart socket adaptor with is marked BS 1363, and a Flymo plug in RCD with no BS marking.

 

[morqthana]

All the stuff coming from AliExpress or whatever direct to EU and UK customers

Surely they can print whatever marks they like without fear of consequences

Countries which wanted to generate consequences for them could collapse their customer base by prosecuting the customers for importing dangerous and/or falsely certified products.

 

[mikehammer69]

Countries which wanted to generate consequences for them could collapse their customer base by prosecuting the customers for importing dangerous and/or falsely certified products.

Ok morqthana

In the real world that will never happen

It's not like you're buying fireworks or importing meth

 

[morqthana]

In the real world that will never happen

No, because in the real world nobody wants to stop unsafe goods from entering the country.

 

[ericmark]

My own plug in doorbell

it also works as a hub for loads of smart stuff around the house, but is marked BS 1363 and UKCA which is what one would expect. I keep forgetting Hong Kong is now China. But having lived there, they do have BS 1363 sockets, so same unit would be used local to where their base is.

If you looked at YouTube for plug in solar before 27th August there were loads of people not only buying and fitting non-compliant units, but also telling everyone what they had done. What are they going to do, claim it was all AI generated?

 

[morqthana]

BS1363 is for sockets and plugs, not wall warts.

 

[ericmark]

BS1363 is for sockets and plugs, not wall warts.

So the wall wart does not plug into a BS 1363 socket? This is why I tell people these

can't be used, simple, not marked BS 1363 so they are not to be put in BS 1363 sockets.