Product not performing as required - Bricklights

[RickH]

I bought 12 Brick Lights from TLC
IP44 lights (as in first pic)

Due to other projects had only fitted 3 ... and while they are dry and serviceable 'inside' the outer grill (only part on show) is VERY badly corroded. I live aprox 1km from the coast, so there is salt air, but I expected much better performance from an outside light.
So much so that I won't even attempt to use the ones still boxed.

This is not a warranty issues as past that point - but I need to find an alternative Brick Light that will withstand UK water ....... stainless would be an option, but non metallic possibly if quality material.

Anybody any suggestions ?

 

[ETAF]

yep, thats what we have on all our outside lights and have purchased a few different ones - LAST ones i thought where a plastic case and hoped would be OK - from wickes

BUT after 1 year - really started to look bad - now been up 2years
I live 0.5Km from the sea - and all bungalows - so the wind is quite high around the property
i have taken some photos - of the lights
been up 2 years - wickes - Img_1267
been up 5 years - toolstation - img_1269
been up probably 20+ years - ????? -img_1268

i guess good quality stainless steel maybe - will be watching with interest, to see suggestions , as will be replacing the 1267 soon as the LED has stopped working in 1 anyway

 

[jj4091]

Brother in law lives in a similar location and had the same problem with stainless steel ones. Can only suggest you get a good quality paint suitable for the material (looks like an alloy of some sort ) My guess with his was that they were made with grade 304 or lower stainless steel which isn't really meant for continual outside use

 

[333rocky333]

Not used personally but Google finds these.
There is metal good lights about, ive moved now but i had some black metal lanterns that stated corrosion resistant and ten years on they still looked good

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

i guess good quality stainless steel maybe - will be watching with interest, to see suggestions , as will be replacing the 1267 soon as the LED has stopped working in 1 anyway

Not on the coast, but I have a similar lantern light, lighting my drive, made from cast alloy. It went the same way as yours, so I tackled it with a thick resin paint, for metal., I'd bought from Lidl That after wire brushing it. That was a few years ago, and it's been fine since.

 

[Scally-Ho]

My home is just a half crow flow mile from the coast and after several metallic porch style lanterns suffered with the pox, I replaced with plastic type some 12yrs ago and the polycarbonate body is still glossy and sound.

 

[morqthana]

My guess with his was that they were made with grade 304 or lower stainless steel which isn't really meant for continual outside use

You need 316, or even better A4-70.

 

[jj4091]

You need 316, or even better A4-70.

Manufacturers of those lights rarely if ever tell you on the packaging what grade of steel they are made from. So even if you are aware of different grades finding what you should use is not easy.

 

[mattylad]

USe a magnet when you go to buy them, if it sticks then it's not good stainless.

 

[morqthana]

Manufacturers of those lights rarely if ever tell you on the packaging what grade of steel they are made from.

I bet they would if it was 316/A4-70.

 

[morqthana]

Not used personally but Google finds these.

 

[morqthana]

I'd hoped people would reply here

Calling all 3D printer users

Could anybody who knows look at the light grilles here https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/product-not-performing-as-required-bricklights.646826/ and say if they think replacements could be printed?

www.diynot.com

 

[RickH]

I have a dual skin wall ..... solid block to rear with no access, and brick to front.
Bricks left out in readiness for lights, and cables installed.
Cables daisy-chained (pass thru) from centre light to left and right.

Arrangement repeated on 3 walls. (as per sketch)




The issue I have is that initially intended (and purchased lights) - corroded in a very short time, really unsuitable for outside light ..... pic attached.




So after asking advice here, had an option of Marine Stainless Steel LED light - Sienna .. https://www.nationallighting.co.uk/...arine-grade-stainless-steel-ip44-4000k-200lm?

The lights are neat and push fit stainless clips would be good fixing.
However, there is no connection box, it has a fixed cord ... and with light in place there is less than 1/4" behind the light so no way to install a connection box.

Couple of questions ...

# Anybody aware of a reduced-depth Brick light ?

# Anybody know of a really shallow joint box, I could recess into a concrete block (not an easy job)

# Alternative is to ignore all the cabling & installed multi-way switching and use some solar PV brick lights - anybody know of a good make.

 

[RickH]

View attachment 383994

do you have a link to that product ?

 

[Why Not Indeed]

Read the product spec more carefully.
"Each fitting comes with angled cable glands and fast-fix terminal block, allowing for quick installation.".