Reform Policies

[noseall]

Blair and Brown set the idea in the public's mind that we could have unlimited public spending with fairly low taxes by endlessly borrowing. Things really were only getting better... if you had absolutely no concerns about the long-term future of the country.

The tories/lib dems were pretty much forced into carrying on with more of the same.

Serious question - do you actually believe the rubbish you post?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That's before you get onto the subject of refrm councils and how they are being run

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Serious question - do you actually believe the rubbish you post?

Good to see you keeping up the traditions of the GD forum with that well-considered and constructive response.

Obviously. But sadly many actually believe the guff that the labour party spew so probably don't recognise reality.

Tell me exactly what words you disagree with and why, I'll try and help you to understand.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Or perhaps our governments have been responsible over the last 20-odd years, the economy's doing well and the massive national debt is all just a right-wing conspiracy theory?

 

[noseall]

Tell me exactly what words you disagree with and why

Blair and Brown set the idea in the public's mind that we could have unlimited public spending

Straight out fantasy.

The tories/lib dems were pretty much forced into carrying on with more of the same

Has to be some kind of (non-funny) joke.

 

[Odds]

The tories/lib dems were pretty much forced into carrying on with more of the same.



The Austerity years, anyone?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The tories/lib dems were pretty much forced into carrying on with more of the same.



The Austerity years, anyone?

My point exactly. They cut spending, a bit, to a point that wasn't even revenue-neutral, they were still borrowing every day just to keep the wheels of our fake economy turning. It was all blown up into some great "austerity" cruelty that they were inflicting upon the poor people by the BBC and friends. They were just doing what governments are supposed to do, but we'd all got used to living on tick so it appeared to be poverty in comparison to the previous levels of stupidity.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Straight out fantasy.


Has to be some kind of (non-funny) joke.

So do you think the national debt is imaginary and/or doesn't exist?!

The level of comprehension of reality among some on here is shocking.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The United Kingdom National Debt Clock 2026 Counter >> nationaldebtclock.co.uk

The Great Kingdom UK national debt grows at a rate of 45.486 pond per second! Watch the live debt clock 2026. Watch it live...

www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk

Any comments on this? All fake far-right lies perhaps?

£90k debt per taxpayer (many of whom don't actually pay anything).

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I'm guessing you don't like taxation

 

[noseall]

So do you think the national debt is imaginary and/or doesn't exist?!

Eh?

A better question would have been - was national debt in existence before Blair/Brown and were the public aware?

You seem to believe that a Labour government invented national debt/public spending and that subsequent governments were somehow brainwashed into increasing both. For fourteen years.

You are deluded.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Eh?

A better question would have been - was national debt in existence before Blair/Brown and were the public aware?

You seem to believe that a Labour government invented national debt/public spending and that subsequent governments were somehow brainwashed into increasing both. For fourteen years.

You are deluded.

Also ignoring how and why our export trading went down

 

[ellal]

You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink

Or indeed make it think

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

There are some weird random and wrong thoughts being put into my mind here!

I didn't say debt didn't exist, or the other stupid nonsense accusations.

Are we saying the national debt hasn't massively snowballed over the last 20 years? Let's make that a starting point at least, hopefully that's a fact that everyone can agree on, or perhaps even that can be imagined away?