Reform will stop the small boats within two weeks ...

[ellal]

Never voted for a bunch of morons to say to the EU that we cannot leave without a deal for one. Opened us up for a crap deal straight away. Voted for us to take control over our own borders, it has never been so bad.
Voted for us to cut deals accross the world,
Voted because we were told the NHS would have an additional £350 million per week rather than pay the EU membership.
Voted because we were told that Turkey was joining the EU amounting to thousands of migants hitting our shores (not far off with that one)

So you voted for lies and things that couldn't actually happen...

But you actually got one thing that was widely predicted - a screwed up UK!

You'll feel right at home with deform

 

[carmanmemoranda]

1- lower house prices will mean more people can get on the property ladder
2- landlords rent out to serco instead
3- only 61% of landlords have mortgages
4- mortgage companies STILL make lots of profit
5-the wealthy own shares in these companies and so they become richer as their assets grow (no change here)

So you have just listed a load of nothing - nothing will change - your hated wealthy will still be getting wealthier, and you are happy to call it a property ladder -- its only a ladder if house prices go UP so you are advocating for higher property prices.

The bottom rung of that ladder only works if people can get onto it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Never voted for a bunch of morons to say to the EU that we cannot leave without a deal for one. Opened us up for a crap deal straight away. Voted for us to take control over our own borders, it has never been so bad.
Voted for us to cut deals accross the world,
Voted because we were told the NHS would have an additional £350 million per week rather than pay the EU membership.
Voted because we were told that Turkey was joining the EU amounting to thousands of migants hitting our shores (not far off with that one)

I don't remeber any of that being on the voting form.

Or on any detailed explanation of what brexit would be. Was there actually any ?

You were hoodwinked and voted for what you were hoping it would be, not what it was going to be.

The slogans worked on you.

 

[Notch7]

1- lower house prices will mean more people can get on the property ladder
2- landlords rent out to serco instead
3- only 61% of landlords have mortgages
4- mortgage companies STILL make lots of profit
5-the wealthy own shares in these companies and so they become richer as their assets grow (no change here)

So you have just listed a load of nothing - nothing will change - your hated wealthy will still be getting wealthier, and you are happy to call it a property ladder -- its only a ladder if house prices go UP so you are advocating for higher property prices.

there is so much wrong in your post its hard to know where to begin

1- lower house prices will mean more people can get on the property ladde

house prices arent going down though

2- landlords rent out to serco instead

not many

3- only 61% of landlords have mortgages

the 39% that dont have mortgages, take rent and can convert it into assets by buying more properties or more shares

4- mortgage companies STILL make lots of profit

not sure what point you are making, you seem very confused

5-the wealthy own shares in these companies and so they become richer as their assets grow (no change here)

not if the government taxed assets rather than wages

So you have just listed a load of nothing - nothing will change - your hated wealthy will still be getting wealthier, and you are happy to call it a property ladder -- its only a ladder if house prices go UP so you are advocating for higher property prices.

Ive no idea what all that word salad means

poor Aveatry does not understand that living standards in the UK are a result of wealth inequality
poor Aveatry is a Reform supporter, the party that would increase wealth inequality

 

[fillyboy]

This is more like it.

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[Harry Bloomfield]

This is more like it.

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That was reported, way back on the 4th July!

 

[aveatry]

there is so much wrong in your post its hard to know where to begin


house prices arent going down though


not many


the 39% that dont have mortgages, take rent and can convert it into assets by buying more properties or more shares


not sure what point you are making, you seem very confused



not if the government taxed assets rather than wages



Ive no idea what all that word salad means

poor Aveatry does not understand that living standards in the UK are a result of wealth inequality
poor Aveatry is a Reform supporter, the party that would increase wealth inequality

Not my fault you missed the point, which is by reducing house prices so that more people can get on the property ladder, it does not have any effect on number 5.

 

[Notch7]

Not my fault you missed the point, which is by reducing house prices so that more people can get on the property ladder, it does not have any effect on number 5.

Are you saying you would like policies which would reduce house prices?

such policies would be very left wing.

Policies such as: mass council house building or land value tax.

Aveatry the Corbyn supporting socialist

 

[Highway Man]

The slogans worked on you.

They were great slogans, they made me smile so it was worth the vote in my opinion.

 

[Odds]

“From Epping to the sea, let’s make England Abdul free,” proclaimed the former Conservative and Ukip MP Douglas Carswell last week.

Catchy.

I wonder how far they're really prepared to go with all this anti-immigration slap-chat. James Catton, the donor manager of Reform UK, has advocated forcibly deporting 10 million people. Nigel Farage has appeared to exclude women and children from his plan to deport 600,000 people in the first term of a Reform government (God forbid). But he's also on record saying; “At this stage it’s not part of our plan for the next five years,” he said, leaving himself plenty of room for constructive ambiguity, and as recently as last September Farage was rejecting mass deportations as “a political impossibility”.

The idea of mass deportation would've been unthinkable twenty years ago, who can say where the latest barrage of bullsh!! from Farrage will end?

 

[Notch7]

Reform would slash taxes for the rich in two weeks

 

[Notch7]

They were great slogans, they made me smile so it was worth the vote in my opinion.

this is a perfect example of how easily those lacking critical thought are duped

 

[diy_fun_uk]

“From Epping to the sea, let’s make England Abdul free,” proclaimed the former Conservative and Ukip MP Douglas Carswell last week.

Catchy.

I wonder how far they're really prepared to go with all this anti-immigration slap-chat. James Catton, the donor manager of Reform UK, has advocated forcibly deporting 10 million people. Nigel Farage has appeared to exclude women and children from his plan to deport 600,000 people in the first term of a Reform government (God forbid). But he's also on record saying; “At this stage it’s not part of our plan for the next five years,” he said, leaving himself plenty of room for constructive ambiguity, and as recently as last September Farage was rejecting mass deportations as “a political impossibility”.

The idea of mass deportation would've been unthinkable twenty years ago, who can say where the latest barrage of bullsh!! from Farrage will end?

It all has the potential to become very dangerous, depending of course on ones opinion and view.

For example, if Carswell did proclaim as per your post, what exactly does he mean by that? Is he using Abdul as a catch-all name for illegal migrants? Or does he mean his preference would be for every non white person to be shown the proverbial door? For all those actually named Abdul who live here, were born here, who positively contribute etc, what are they to make of such a statement?

If you look just a bit more closely at some of the rhetoric, it doesn't take an expert to unpick what's actually going on.

Did anyone see the news clip yesterday of the youngish chap and his mates putting up union jack flags in a small English town? At first he was asserting it was all him, a truly grassroots thing. But then, with a bit more pressing from the reporter, he admitted he had been in the company of Yaxley-Lennon the night before and it was him that provided the flags to be erected. Whether this part was true or he was (trolling?) I can't say.

He also said something like 'these people need to bow to the flag as we do.' Do we? I certainly don't bow to any flag. Then, of course, the line got trotted out about them needing to understand we don't stand for things like girls and women being targeted, raped etc. Eh? Tell that to the thousands of Brits who do abuse women each year.

As we've touched on before, if Reform do get in and manage to remove all the illegals, who gets targeted next if we're still not living in utopia?

I suppose if they do get in and ramp up things like stop and search again, I'd better get ready (as a dark skinned male) to get stopped now and again to show my papers.

So yeah, whilst I'm all for much tougher controls around immigration, there could be a real risk to some of our hard fought for freedoms. And, if I'm being honest, I would trust Reform even less than I trust the established parties, and that's not saying much

 

[Munroast]

So you pair think hes gonna invade Poland?

If Putin is allowed to gain yet more control in Ukraine, we won't stop there. He has already made it plain he wants a Greater Russia.
With that fat NK fukkwit as his side kick he probably feels invincible.

a little bit of testing (re poland) last night

NATO needs to adopt a policy of going absolutely apeshit every time putin comes near our border

 

[Odds]

It all has the potential to become very dangerous, depending of course on ones opinion and view.

For example, if Carswell did proclaim as per your post,

Click on this link -

what exactly does he mean by that? Is he using Abdul as a catch-all name for illegal migrants? Or does he mean his preference would be for every non white person to be shown the proverbial door? For all those actually named Abdul who live here, were born here, who positively contribute etc, what are they to make of such a statement?

seems clear enough to me.