Religion Of Peace????

People abuse all kinds of ideas to manipulate others. Religion is a favourite but there are many others, e.g. anti-racism, environmentalism.

Starmer is currently falsely claiming that Dad Nowak has said that nobody should talk about the police's downright racist written policies, as that would allegedly be against his wishes.

This is what happens when mind-controlling power-freaks are in charge.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
This is the bizarre thing about the left. They spout about equality, fairness and women's rights, while aligning themselves with Islam, which is a truly backwards, oppressive culture.
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You are mistaken.

Ivor Windybottom said:
Two groups of people at opposite ends of the spectrum, sharing the same umbrella while both attempting to take advantage of each other's voter base.

Then there are the obvious conflicts between women's rights and the alphabet rainbow people who think wearing a dress makes it OK for a bloke to go in a women's safe space.

Basically Labour and Green are a ragbag alliance of conflicting factions who all disagree with each other. Which is why their reaction to any issue is to just silence debate, exactly as they are doing now. Because if people talk about issues then they'll discover how much the people within the party disagree over the answers.
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All we are saying is (Give Peace a Chance) Palestinians have earned a right to their own country and the autonomy to govern themselves rather than live under an oppressive regime implementing an apartheid rule - South Africa were sanctioned and condemned by the world for such measures; how come israel gets a free pass?
 
Odds said:
You are mistaken.




All we are saying is (Give Peace a Chance) Palestinians have earned a right to their own country and the autonomy to govern themselves rather than live under an oppressive regime implementing an apartheid rule - South Africa were sanctioned and condemned by the world for such measures; how come israel gets a free pass?
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South Africa never rejected the right to self governance and their own country, the Palestinians did on at least 4 occasions.
 
I very much doubt that Israel would have ever offered anything fair, respectful or reasonable.

It's obvious to anyone that their aim is just expansion, seizing land and resources, killing or removing the current population. The rest is just excuses.

Israel will never be at peace with its neighbours, as it doesn't want that. War is the environment that's needed, so it can keep taking buffer zones, populating them then needing a further buffer zone beyond it. All in the name of "peace" and "defence" of course.

But it's best to stay the hell out of it. It's what's gone on since humans were invented.
 
Odds said:
South Africa were sanctioned and condemned by the world for such measures; how come israel gets a free pass?
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Not by Maggie Thatcher. Her approach was more nuanced.
A close aide once told me that she opposed apartheid more on the grounds that it was a sin against economic liberalism rather than a crime against humanity. She also was bitterly against sanctions of any sort – they were a crime against free trade....Advised by her husband, Dennis, who had business interests in South Africa, she felt that anything that damaged wealth creation must be bad for South Africa. She was also a great admirer of Laurens van der Post, the South African writer and traveller later exposed as a fraud, who also opposed sanctions on the country. He introduced her to Mangosuthu Buthelezi, the Zulu leader, who played an ambivalent role in the struggle against apartheid, splitting from the ANC in 1979 and accepting "homeland" status for Kwazulu. His movement, Inkatha, helped the South African police repress ANC rebellion in the townships.
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Ivor Windybottom said:
This is the bizarre thing about the left. They spout about equality, fairness and women's rights, while aligning themselves with Islam, which is a truly backwards, oppressive culture.
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All religions based on the Abrahamic traditions: Judaism, Islam and Christianity are truly backwards and oppressive.

Ivor Windybottom said:
Then there are the obvious conflicts between women's rights and the alphabet rainbow people who think wearing a dress makes it OK for a bloke to go in a women's safe space.
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What about the women wearing trousers going into men's toilets? Is that OK?

Ivor Windybottom said:
Basically Labour and Green are a ragbag alliance of conflicting factions who all disagree with each other.
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All political parties are a ragbag of conflicting ideas. That's why they say such and such a party is a wide church. There's left and right within the parties.
Think of the political differences between Corbyn and Blair, but they're both Labour.
Or Liz Trusses' economic policies compared to Boris Johnson's "levelling up" policies.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
There's definitely a muslim knife thing. During the 2024 protests, police were recorded telling them to "put your weapons back in the mosque", another obvious example of two-tier policing that the left chose to silence debate about.

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Islam does not require anyone to carry, use or threaten to use a knife as a weapon.
In fact as Islam requires its believers to abide by local laws, the carrying of a knife for a weapon would be forbidden in UK.

Don't get suckered by Reaganandcarter's YouTube nonsense.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
This is what happens when mind-controlling power-freaks are in charge.
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And you think it will be better if Reform or Restore are governing the country?

I don't think it will be one bit better. All parties have their own ways of trying to control and dictate the socioeconomic narrative.
 
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