Selling without kettle lead?

[EFLImpudence]

That may well be the case if it's a 'private' sale (although I'm not sure what the legal situation would be if you "correctly described" it as, say, 'very dangerous'.

Can't buy explosives or cars anywhere.

 

[JohnW2]

Can't buy explosives or cars anywhere.

You know what I meant!

If, for example, you offered an electrical item for sale privately and described it as being 'electrically dangerous', I don't know what the legal situation would be. Maybe one can get away with selling it 'for repair/spares', but stressing that it is not safe for use 'as is'? I really don't know.

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes, but it's not (necessarily). It's a kettle without a lead, so, in effect, unusable as a kettle; ideal as a jug.

 

[JohnW2]

Yes, but it's not (necessarily). It's a kettle without a lead, so, in effect, unusable as a kettle; ideal as a jug.

The point is surely that 'kettle leads' (assuming we're talking about a 'standard' one) are freely available - so the question is what the position would be if you sold it without a lead ('for use as a jug') but with a caveat that it would (for whatever reason) be dangerous if connected to the mains with a 'kettle lead'? As I said, I don't know the answer.

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

It's NOT dangerous; it's a kettle.

 

[motorbiking]

This is getting silly.
A retailer cannot sell used electrical appliances in an unsafe condition and he would be unwise to try to dodge his responsibility by describing it as something else. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1987/43/section/11

You can't take the power lead away from a kettle as a way of avoiding ensuring something is safe

Private seller is different. However, a person would have a good damages claim if someone knowingly sold something in a dangerous condition without making it abundantly clear it was "spares or repairs" etc.

Since we are also now talking about cars:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/75

 

[JohnW2]

It's NOT dangerous; it's a kettle.

I was talking about the situation in which you knew that the kettle would be dangerous if connected to mains electricity, and said so. As I said, selling it (with or without a lead) "for spares or repair" might be adequate (but only for a private sale), but I don't know.

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

Silly indeed.

Why are people allowed to sell kettle leads without kettles?


I didn't read the first link in Bernard's post - but the second regarding cars:

rather obvious as selling cars which are not roadworthy - for repair - is very common.

 

[Jackrae]

Kettles are 'dangerous' they contain boiling water

 

[mattylad]

you mean "read the whole bloody thing" ???

4.1 does not say you must have a supply cord?
I am wanting to know which bit says that you must provide a supply cord?

I can see it saying that a supply cord must have a suitable plug on it but not where it says you must provide a supply cord?

BTW I am not asking this to argue about the issue but because I work in manufacturing and supplying equipment that may or may not have a supply cord, on a daily basis.
Edit: Although I note that as it's for use within the workplace, the appliances I make are outwith the regulations.

 

[motorbiking]

Read Part II http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/1768/regulation/11/made

 

[mattylad]

I have, part 2 does not say that an appliance must be supplied with a supply cord.

If it is then it must have an appropriate plug fitted to it, but it's still not saying that it must have the lead.

As you are sure that it must then can you quote the exact paragraph that says it must please?
Thank you.