Thames Water nearing the cliff edge.

[morqthana]

And they own some of our electricity infrastructure too.

And effectively subsidise their own energy supply

Using money they get from UK customers.

 

[blup]

the restriction is 30 words - the abstract

Abstract or extract

140 characters - the teaser
There is no 140 word allowance.

People on this forum are more likely to be attracted by an extract than a teaser, the posters here are sophisticated

we are on the same page when it comes to defining a word or a character?

You can’t sue for reproducing blank spaces

They are denied the benefits of the link, which is why they want it.

Are they ? I doubt that diynot readers would sign up to a relatively expensive paywall

There are over 200 violations on this forum, they'd want some money if they knew.

Newspapers can - and presumably do - scrape or sweep the internet for plagiarism/copy right breaches

 

[morqthana]

The way that AI tools are used to steal creators works is of far more consequence to all of us, including the FT, than someone quoting "too much" of one of their articles on an internet discussion forum.

 

[motorbiking]

Abstract or extract

People on this forum are more likely to be attracted by an extract than a teaser, the posters here are sophisticated

You can’t sue for reproducing blank spaces

Are they ? I doubt that diynot readers would sign up to a relatively expensive paywall

Newspapers can - and presumably do - scrape or sweep the internet for plagiarism/copy right breaches

good effort. But of course it fails. I think you knew that, right?

The Fair Dealing argument is a tiny bit stronger. But also fails.

 

[Notch7]

the posters here are sophisticated

 

[Notch7]

good effort. But of course it fails. I think you knew that, right?

The Fair Dealing argument is a tiny bit stronger. But also fails.

Who cares.

the FT isn’t gonna give a monkeys about some bloke posting something on a forum.

 

[blup]

good effort. But of course it fails. I think you knew that, right?

JD has a FT paywall contract which allows teaser content to be reproduced. By your argument one word followed by 139 blank spaces followed by another word is in breach of that contract. Would a court enforce that?

The Fair Dealing argument is a tiny bit stronger. But also fails.

Does a diy forum have to be registered as a newspaper before its GD current affairs and political content can be treated as “reporting “

 

[motorbiking]

JD has a FT paywall contract

Yes a contract

which allows teaser content to be reproduced.

Subject to the terms of the contract

By your argument one word followed by 139 blank spaces followed by another word is in breach of that contract.

I still don't think you've properly understood it. By "word" I think you might mean "letter or character". for example "word" is one word and 4 letters/characters. 140 characters is not a lot.

Would a court enforce that?

They frequently do - its a breach of contract, with a clear case of damages and accepted terms.

Does a diy forum have to be registered as a newspaper before its GD current affairs and political content can be treated as “reporting “

No - case law allows a broad definition. But it fails anyway due to:

JD has a FT paywall contract

You sign up and pay a fee, for access to content. It's obvious to any reasonable person that you cannot reproduce that content to others who have not paid. Particularly via another website which makes an income from attracting people to its content. This is referred to in the agreement as a Substitute(1).

1) a product or service that reduces the need for users or other third parties to pay for FT content directly, or which creates revenue from the FT’s content to the detriment of FT’s own ability to generate revenues from that content.

 

[noseall]

Who cares.

the FT isn’t gonna give a monkeys about some bloke posting something on a forum.

Correct.

 

[motorbiking]

It’s not hard to comply.