This made me smile..

[noseall]

Orangina is in the Epstein files?

Thousands of times. Probably more than any other name.

 

[aveatry]

You're denying Orangina is in the Epstein files?

The fake news and disinformation’s part is that you were spreading that the England fans were singing / chanting it, when it was actually dubbed over and fake.

 

[noseall]

You're denying Orangina is in the Epstein files?

Only someone really stoopid would do that.

 

[Brigadier]

Only someone really stoopid would do that.

Yes.

More a case of "sweepy sweepy under the carpet" then

 

[rds60h]

Do you take the bible as literally as you do the Koran.
Should homosexuels be killed, apparently they should according to the Jewish old testament.

The difference is that Christians have realised that many of the scriptures of the Bible do not have a place in the 21st Century, whereas Islamists fully accept this 7th Century Ideology and live their whole life by the Quran and the Hadiths of Muhammad, with Muhammad being the Role Model of the Perfect Muslim Man.

 

[King Billy]

The difference is that Christians have realised that many of the scriptures of the Bible do not have a place in the 21st Century, whereas Islamists fully accept this 7th Century Ideology and live their whole life by the Quran and the Hadiths of Muhammad, with Muhammad being the Role Model of the Perfect Muslim Man.

So the Quran is more up-to-date than the bible?
By about 1,800 years by my reckoning.
Oh, and the Quran was pretty much plagiarised from the Bible.

 

[rds60h]

I did read the thread.
OK maybe there are references to killing Jews in qoran but didn't you say that the bible and the qoran are works of fiction.
Is it just the bible you believe is a work of fiction or both the bible and qoran are works of fiction.

There are several scriptures within the Quran that are taken from the Bible and numerous stories in the Quran copied from the Bible. But the Big Difference is that the Bible doesn't preach Death to all of the Jews Nor to Kill or Enslave anyone who will Not Convert to Islam !! Nor does it approve of or encourage Paedophilia as the Quran and Hadiths do.

 

[King Billy]

Nor does it approve of or encourage Paedophilia as the Quran and Hadiths do.

Show us where the Quran or the Hadiths preach paedophilia.

Filly tried a while ago, to show where he claimed the Quran called for death to Jews, but all he presented was someone's opinion of what the Quran said.
He even tried to present some pages in Arabic, but a) they weren't from the Quran, and b) they didn't translate as he claimed they did.

It's yet another version of the book of revelations in the Bible.
And it isn't from the Quran.

 

[rds60h]

So the Quran is more up-to-date than the bible?
By about 1,800 years by my reckoning.
Oh, and the Quran was pretty much plagiarised from the Bible.

Your reckoning as usual is wrong, the Quran followed the Bible between five to six Centuries after. so you are out by about 1200 years. Several scriptures and many stories are plagiarised from the Bible. The Difference is the People who believe in them, Christians are much more pragmatic and realise that certain standards used in the Bible do not belong in the 21st Century, whereas Islamists believe every word of the Ideology and live their lives to the Scripts of the Quran and Hadiths of Muhammad with Muhammad being the Role Model for all Muslim Men to achieve and so they still live in and by 7th Century Standards .

 

[King Billy]

Your reckoning as usual is wrong, the Quran followed the Bible between five to six Centuries after. so you are out by about 1200 years.

Do the maths;
Old Testament (c. 1200–165 BC)

Did you think the publisher held on to the earlier books until the whole was finished and ready for publication?

Several scriptures and many stories are plagiarised from the Bible. The Difference is the People who believe in them, Christians are much more pragmatic and realise that certain standards used in the Bible do not belong in the 21st Century, whereas Islamists believe every word of the Ideology and live their lives to the Scripts of the Quran and Hadiths of Muhammad with Muhammad being the Role Model for all Muslim Men to achieve and so they still live in and by 7th Century Standards .

Have you run out of original cliches, so you're now reduced to repeating your earlier nonsense.
You go round in circles if you want, but don't expect others to follow you.

 

[rds60h]

Show us where the Quran or the Hadiths preach paedophilia.

Filly tried a while ago, to show where he claimed the Quran called for death to Jews, but all he presented was someone's opinion of what the Quran said.
He even tried to present some pages in Arabic, but a) they weren't from the Quran, and b) they didn't translate as he claimed they did.

The best example is actually from the Hadiths ( Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 and Sahih al-Bukhari 3894.) which tells the Story of Muhammad (**** be upon him) where Muhammad built a Huge Harem with 13 Wives. In Addition, he had a Large Number of Sex-Slaves who were Enslaved during his Jihads. Muhammad (pbuh) Married Aisha, the six year old Daughter of his pledged Brother Abu-Bakr and his Daughter-in-Law Zaynab, although he did not consummate the Marriage until Aisha was 9 years old and he did so while she played with her dolls. You must remember that Muhammad (pbuh) is the man all Muslim men should strive to be like......................You say about things that don't translate but "Islamic Scholars" even argue when the literal Translation proves different to what they want you to believe such as at Muhammad's Aunt Fatima bint Asad's Funeral written about in the Hadith Al-Mustadrak ala al-Sahihayn by Imam al-Hakim and the Musnad of Imam al-Tabarani, which describes the Prophet’s Actions when Fatima bint Asad passed away in Medina. It narrates that Muhammad "Shrouded his Aunt Fatima bint Asad in his Own Shirt to Bless Her" "while climbing into her Grave where he Laid Down in it to Ease her Fear and the Pressure of the Grave" it is at this point that in Arabic is says "idhtaja'a" and "dakhala" which translate with the meanings of "to lie down" and "to enter" which Islamic Scholars argue that it doesn't mean "enter" but it does mean "to enter" he then "Prayed for her, Calling her his Mother". So a possible story of Necrophilia with his Dead Aunt.

 

[rds60h]

So you believe when you call someone a Zionist , you are really referring to Jews.
Your conflation of Jews with Zionism could be considered anti semitic by some but not me.
I agree that it is ironic that the traditional home for real Jew hatred was the far right but with the rise of Islamophobia the far right have reinvented themselves as Israel lovers in the extreme, very strange.

That is one of your biggest mistakes, it is not the Far Right it is the Ordinary Working British, Whites in particular but also many Black, Brown and any other Colour in between who are sick and tired of being the subject of all the Taxation, being ignored and being told we are not important and that Illegal Migrant's Rights are a priority to those of the Local Populations where these Illegal, lying, unchecked, single men (Refugees my Arse) who have no respect for British Culture, Standard or Law (One of them in France has even been Jailed for Raping Goats and Sheep).

 

[noseall]

I see Toxic Trump has a buddy. A fellow loathsome leper, that turns all he touches to ratshít. Toxic Tommy, having been refused entry into Australia was included in a Karl Stefanovic podcast. Big mistake.

Stefanovic is a well known Australian celebrity. The somewhat untouchable golden boy with an eye watering salary to match was booted off the Today Show.

 

[King Billy]

The best example is actually from the Hadiths ( Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 and Sahih al-Bukhari 3894.) which tells the Story of Muhammad (**** be upon him) where Muhammad built a Huge Harem with 13 Wives. In Addition, he had a Large Number of Sex-Slaves who were Enslaved during his Jihads. Muhammad (pbuh) Married Aisha, the six year old Daughter of his pledged Brother Abu-Bakr and his Daughter-in-Law Zaynab, although he did not consummate the Marriage until Aisha was 9 years old and he did so while she played with her dolls. You must remember that Muhammad (pbuh) is the man all Muslim men should strive to be like......................You say about things that don't translate but "Islamic Scholars" even argue when the literal Translation proves different to what they want you to believe such as at Muhammad's Aunt Fatima bint Asad's Funeral written about in the Hadith Al-Mustadrak ala al-Sahihayn by Imam al-Hakim and the Musnad of Imam al-Tabarani, which describes the Prophet’s Actions when Fatima bint Asad passed away in Medina. It narrates that Muhammad "Shrouded his Aunt Fatima bint Asad in his Own Shirt to Bless Her" "while climbing into her Grave where he Laid Down in it to Ease her Fear and the Pressure of the Grave" it is at this point that in Arabic is says "idhtaja'a" and "dakhala" which translate with the meanings of "to lie down" and "to enter" which Islamic Scholars argue that it doesn't mean "enter" but it does mean "to enter" he then "Prayed for her, Calling her his Mother". So a possible story of Necrophilia with his Dead Aunt.

So this is your basis for believing Muslims are all paedophiles?
You said earlier that Muslims believe the Quran and the Hadiths literally, and that Islam has not evolved the way Christianity has, so you must believe it.
You also claim that Islam belongs in the 7th century.
Well there's news for you, Islam, like most things is untrusted to scholars, who interpret the Quran and the Hadiths in modern society.

Islam absolutely forbids paedophilia. In Islamic law, any sexual act outside the boundaries of a lawful, consensual marriage is considered a grave sin (categorized under Zina, which includes adultery and fornication).
The religion requires that both parties in a marriage possess the mental capacity, maturity, and legal ability to give consent—prerequisites that children inherently lack. Consequently, all forms of child sexual abuse and paedophilic acts are strictly prohibited, and perpetrators face severe penalties under Islamic Sharia.

All Muslim-majority countries have laws explicitly making pedophilia, child sexual abuse, and the production of child sexual abuse material illegal. These nations enforce penal codes that criminalize non-consensual sexual acts with minors, with many, like Indonesia and Saudi Arabia, applying severe penalties including long-term imprisonment and chemical castration.

How then do you explain child sexual abuse by Priests, etc, facilitated and covered up by the various churches?
And of course the sexual and physical abuse in Christian majority countries?

 

[rds60h]

So this is your basis for believing Muslims are all paedophiles?
You said earlier that Muslims believe the Quran and the Hadiths literally, and that Islam has not evolved the way Christianity has, so you must believe it.
You also claim that Islam belongs in the 7th century.
Well there's news for you, Islam, like most things is untrusted to scholars, who interpret the Quran and the Hadiths in modern society.





How then do you explain child sexual abuse by Priests, etc, facilitated and covered up by the various churches?
And of course the sexual and physical abuse in Christian majority countries?

I'll address you final statements first, Sexual Abuse occurs throughout the Whole World committed by smallish groups within communities across most ethnicities and Religions, who are abhorred by the huge majority of decent civilised people. You ask how do I explain Sexual Abuse by Priests, only to answer the question your self, they are facilitated and covered up by the various Churches who "rule" their Ministry Personal with their own self imposed "Laws" in attempts to mitigate the behaviour...............Such is the Sad and Disgraceful Sanctity provided by Religions imposing their Own Laws. " You said earlier that Muslims believe the Quran and the Hadiths literally, and that Islam has not evolved the way Christianity has," to this I answer....Yes, and Yes, but to "so you must believe it." I respond with I believe what exactly ? " Well there's news for you, Islam, like most things is untrusted to scholars, who interpret the Quran and the Hadiths in modern society." A very Few Muslim Scholars do interpret things with a modern twist be are careful not to corrupt the Words of Allah and the Prophets, because that would deem them to have committed "Apostacy" or "Riddah" which is considered a "Capital Crime" which Historically carries a Death Sentence. However, as heard on many of the Videos posted by Imams and Scholars most still believe in and preach the 7th Century Version / Actual Scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths. Quoting "All Majority Muslim Countries" and naming 2 isn't Proof of Islam forbidding paedophilia and where exactly is this Islamic Law that requires both parties in a marriage to possess the mental capacity and maturity and legal ability to give consent ? The Quran provides numerous get outs about sex outside of marriage such as the sex slaves taken having "conquered" somewhere and it also allows Temporary Marriages even for such a short term as a Couple of Hours. You Really have no Idea about the Content of the Quran and the Hadiths and I suspect that your knowledge of the Holy Bible isn't that much better than your Knowledge of Islam and Sharia Law