Toilet waste blocking up

[heyho]

A few weeks ago I posted on here about my tale of woe regarding a plumber I trusted, took my money and did a runner not finishing the job, namely reconnecting a new radiator. Thank you for everyone advice.

Anyway he has appeared to have left me with another issue - poor or none existent flushing of the toilet waste. The toilet constantly blocks even with the minimal of waste. I have used a plunger down it and I get back splash form the separate basin. Also when it is blocked if I run the basin taps air gurgles up the bottom of the toilet. The toilet pan connector is a fixed one and I cant remove it has he siliconed the toilet base to the tiles.

Would it be worth cutting the pan connector off, checking the waste pipe under the floor and replace it with a flexi slinky pipe?

Am I talking utter rubbish (I often do) but could the existing fixed pan connector be too long and pushing against the waste channel. (dont laugh if I am talking utter, ermm toilet waste lol)

 

[OvertonPlumber]

First thing is to look in the first manhole and see if your drains are blocked

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Worst thing you can do is replace a fixed pan connector with a flexi. Although it may solve your issue of splash back in the short term if you do, as the chances are the Flexi will simply pop out the soil pipe when you attempt to plunge the Pan, and empty the contents of the WC and associated pipework all over the floor instead.

Need a bit more information please, is this a Ground floor/first floor WC, where does the soil pipe go, etc, photos' (of said Toilet) may also be of assistance to us.

 

[heyho]

It's on the ground floor (concrete flooring) and the waste is via a 90 degree easi fit WC pan connector down to the floor and the drain below that. The 'so called' plumber siliconed the base of the toilet to the tiles and has left a gap between the tank and the wall of around 7cm.

 

[CountryFan]

Something could have lodged in the drain or connector

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

In the 80's, our soil pipe, from the upstairs bathroom was swapped, cast-iron for plastic. Straight In the mid 90's, the upstairs toilet became blocked - straight down the wall, then set in cement, leading to a manhole. Manhole was clear, but signs of some flow.

Rodding, with a hooked end, back towards the house, caught, and pulled out a large, broken piece of the caste-iron pipe, followed by large flow of you know what. How it had managed to work all those years, with that large lump blocking it, was a surprise.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

It's on the ground floor (concrete flooring) and the waste is via a 90 degree easi fit WC pan connector down to the floor and the drain below that.

OK, I suspect the underground drain is blocked, possibly with a bit of debris that's been dropped down the pipe and waste has built up behind it, blocking it solid. Is there a manhole outside that looks like it may take the drainage from the WC? Rodding may be sufficient to dislodge whatever is up there, if no success it could be worth getting a CCTV camera survey to see if anything obvious is visible, and to give you an idea of how to go about getting it out.

If the blockage cannot be freed or any foreign object pulled out downstream, then I'm afraid the Pan is going to have to come out. Cut the silicone away with a Stanley Knife, and gently rock the pan until it comes free of the floor. Once loose, pull forward to free the Pan Connector from the outlet, and once clear, pull the pan connector out the drain. Hopefully you may see whatever it is that's blocking the pipe from above, and decide how to get it out. (Really wouldn't recommend putting a hand down the pipe, if said object is sharp, you could sustain a nasty injury, that coupled with the plethora of bacteria in the drain, things can soon get infected!)