Vaillant EcoTec Problems

[gas4you]

Obviously not, but just trying to point out to OP that his installer might allegedly wear a stetson and was economical with the truth upon registration.

OP, even though I will not cover any leaks etc as previously stated, I always also state that I will come back and fix any leaks or re-pipe but it is fully chargeable.

I never leave a customer high and dry, or in this case wet with wellies

Also goes to prove what a waste of time and effort £orgi are

Long live ARGI

 

[simond]

Like Dave, unless we supply completely new pipework our quotes always expressly exclude the customer's pipework and rads.

Installers that do not provide written quotes or do not give much detail can find that customers expect them to assume responsibility indefinitely for a heap of concealed, 30yr old, and possibly DIY modified tubing.

It is of course reasonable to expect your installer to find leaks in the system, but providing the quote was written unambiguously he should be able to charge on a time related basis for doing so.

Customers who proceed with vague or verbal quotations are leaving themselves open to a difficult time if things do not go to plan. The devil is in the detail.

 

[phil chandler]

You say its been leaking since fitment..why has it taken so long to do anything about it?
I would have called him out straight away

Silly question but do you have to bleed the rads at all,if so do you repressurize afterwards?

Its a bit stupid for the plumber to tell you to find the leak...thats HIS job,thats why you called him

I would say he has the money and dosnt want the hassle of looking at it coz it would be a freebe,might be just very busy though and hasnt got the time

As said..turn it off and isolate the boiler
Look to see if the pressure relief pipe is getting wet at the outlet,or dripping

funnily enough my prv outlet is wet and drips sometimes(due to look at it xmas)from ecotec 618.....hmmmmmm

You say its been leaking since fitment..why has it taken so long to do anything about it?
I would have called him out straight away

I have had him out at least 4 times. I called him out because water was leaking down my wall - I found it andcalled him out. He said he replaced a split pipe and gave me the bit he replaced - it looked nothing like the bit I knew was leaking so decided to take a ganders at it - he had not replced the bit I saw which was leaking - it was peeing out of it and was directly above where the water I saw coming down the wall. I called him again and he replaced that bit as well.

Silly question but do you have to bleed the rads at all,if so do you repressurize afterwards

? He tells me I dont need to bleed the rads as this eco unit is self bleeding.... is that right or wrong?

As said..turn it off and isolate the boiler
Look to see if the pressure relief pipe is getting wet at the outlet,or dripping

How do I do this please?

 

[gas4you]

As all combi's/system boilers this has an auto air vent built in above the pump.

This only vents the air out of the boiler, not the rads or rest of the system.

When the boiler is first filled then set to purge its selff, a lot of the air will be pushed into the rads and not escape out of the auto air vent

You don't need to turn off the boiler to see if there are any drips out of the prv discharge pipe. If it is dripping it will do it all the time, more so if the boiler is on and the rads are hot as the system pressure will be at its highest then.

 

[phil chandler]

As all combi's/system boilers this has an auto air vent built in above the pump.

This only vents the air out of the boiler, not the rads or rest of the system.

When the boiler is first filled then set to purge its selff, a lot of the air will be pushed into the rads and not escape out of the auto air vent

You don't need to turn off the boiler to see if there are any drips out of the prv discharge pipe. If it is dripping it will do it all the time, more so if the boiler is on and the rads are hot as the system pressure will be at its highest then.

Where is the PRV? is this actually mounted in the boiler unit itself? I have 2 pipes coming out of my wall that its monted on

One pipe (which is plastic) appears to run down into a guttering pipe. Then I have a metal pipe that comes out and appears to have a ubend on it - dont know what that does?

Sorry about the stupid questions - and thanks for everyones help

 

[gas4you]

White plastic overflow pipe on the right hand side is the condensate drain.

The 15mm copper pipe fixed to the boiler just in front of this is the prv discharge pipe that terminates out side.

 

[phil chandler]

White plastic overflow pipe on the right hand side is the condensate drain.

The 15mm copper pipe fixed to the boiler just in front of this is the prv discharge pipe that terminates out side.

So when the pressure gets to much - it releases outside?

 

[gas4you]

Yes but only if it reaches 3 Bar or over.

 

[phil chandler]

Yes but only if it reaches 3 Bar or over.

Only ever managed to get it 1/2 way

This is sooo frustrating - no pressure again and I can not find a leak at all

 

[gas4you]

Then from where I'm sitting you must have a leak on the system.

Pressurise boiler to 1.5, isolate ch with valves under boiler, allen key is easiest way, leave like this for as long as possible.

If pressure doesn't drop then proves it is on the ch system and not the boiler.

 

[phil chandler]

Then from where I'm sitting you must have a leak on the system.

Pressurise boiler to 1.5, isolate ch with valves under boiler, allen key is easiest way, leave like this for as long as possible.

If pressure doesn't drop then proves it is on the ch system and not the boiler.

I know the 2 grey taps under the boiler - open them to the correct pressure then close off?

Then just watch?

 

[gas4you]

No. Presurise then isolate boiler with the brass valves behind these. Allen key will fit, otherwise you may be able to use a large flat bladed screwdriver.