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What vehicle(s) do you drive on a regular basis?

Mottie said:
OVO. From what I remember, the car charging went through a third party. My electricity tariff is 22.84p and the EV rate was 7p. As I understood it, you paid the 22.84 price and the following month you were credited back the difference, so 15.84p per unit.
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Fair enough. Does sound like quite a palaver though!
 
aveatry said:
It is true --- go and google it. Don't know about existing chargers. But is you have a smart meter in your house already that supplies your charger then that power consumption - rate - time- can tell a lot about what is being used, the smart meter can "tell"-- record when you put the oven on compared to when you put the kettle on compared to when you charge your phone as they all have their own power signatures vs time used - not difficult to work out what is being used - against the background consumption of a fridge. If you have a smart meter installed then congratulations - you have installed a spying device. -- For your convenience ;) .
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Do feel free, to make up for what you simply don't know!

Your smart meter, by default, and if you specifically request that frequency of reading, can only record how much power you consume, in 30 minute blocks. Those 30 minute records of consumption, are then stored, until forwarded, as 48 values, once per day, after midnight, and via the mobile network. Nowt much about what is being consumed, can be determined, from those fairly course 30 minute consumption records.

As said, YOU have to request those 30 minute records to be stored, and forwarded, you could instead opt for one record of consumption per day, or leave it as one record per week reported. The 30 minute record, allows us to take part in making use of their free electric sessions, when they are available.

Octopus take things a stage further, and provide a pink gadget, which links your smart meter, to the internet, via your broadband connection. Not being obsessed by your conspiracy theories, I have and use one. The pink gadget, reports my consumption back to Octopus, my supplier, every 10 seconds, whilst it is plugged in. I can plug it in, or unplug it - entirely my choice, but Octopus are not allowed to use the data for billing purposes. The gadget, as an extra, offers to me, what you are erroneously suggesting the basic meter offers by default - I can log into the site, or use an app, to see my precise consumption, down to 1watt, updated every 10 seconds. With such good granularity of data - yes, knowing my home, and it's appliances, I can make a reasonable guess at what might be switched on and consuming, at any particular time.

To suggest that anyone else, might, from your consumption data reported by your Smart Meter, be able to tell when your phone is charger, your electric oven on, versus a kettle, or when your fridge is cooling itself - is absolute made up nonsense.
 
aveatry said:
Remember smart meters officially are automatically set to send readings to your supplier every 30 mins but they can collect and send info constantly.
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More wrong and misleading information. Smart Meters at your request, can record your 30-minute, daily, or entire monthly consumption. If you opt for 30-minute data, that data is stored in the meter, then forwarded to a data-centre, once per 24 hours, after midnight. It can then take the data 24 to 48 hours, to be then forwarded on to your supplier, so at best the consumption data can be 24 hours out of date, and at worst 72 hours.
 
Harry Bloomfield said:
Do feel free, to make up for what you simply don't know!

Your smart meter, by default, and if you specifically request that frequency of reading, can only record how much power you consume, in 30 minute blocks. Those 30 minute records of consumption, are then stored, until forwarded, as 48 values, once per day, after midnight, and via the mobile network. Nowt much about what is being consumed, can be determined, from those fairly course 30 minute consumption records.

As said, YOU have to request those 30 minute records to be stored, and forwarded, you could instead opt for one record of consumption per day, or leave it as one record per week reported. The 30 minute record, allows us to take part in making use of their free electric sessions, when they are available.

Octopus take things a stage further, and provide a pink gadget, which links your smart meter, to the internet, via your broadband connection. Not being obsessed by your conspiracy theories, I have and use one. The pink gadget, reports my consumption back to Octopus, my supplier, every 10 seconds, whilst it is plugged in. I can plug it in, or unplug it - entirely my choice, but Octopus are not allowed to use the data for billing purposes. The gadget, as an extra, offers to me, what you are erroneously suggesting the basic meter offers by default - I can log into the site, or use an app, to see my precise consumption, down to 1watt, updated every 10 seconds. With such good granularity of data - yes, knowing my home, and it's appliances, I can make a reasonable guess at what might be switched on and consuming, at any particular time.

To suggest that anyone else, might, from your consumption data reported by your Smart Meter, be able to tell when your phone is charger, your electric oven on, versus a kettle, or when your fridge is cooling itself - is absolute made up nonsense.
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You old meanie, Harry :mrgreen:
 
Brigadier said:
I have thought that they'll be a ripe market in years to come, for people to buy "knackered" EVs solely for the battery.
Just park it out of sight (back of garden, for instance) and use that as a store.
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It's difficult to usefully get the electricity back out of them though, there being a relative paucity of chargers and cars that will do V2G. That's changing slowly, but at the moment when you crunch the numbers it's not much more of a gain over using a dedicated house battery, though I would like to have eg a Nissan leaf as a run around that is mostly used as a battery because the "keeping it as a car" holds some appeal too. Thats's up against a fogstar battery of the same capacity being broadly the same price..

Harry Bloomfield said:
to tell when your phone is charger, your electric oven on, versus a kettle, or when your fridge is cooling
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if you're interested in high levels of granularity there are some reasonably cost effective power monitoring solutions that put a CT clamp round eg every wire in your consumer unit.. Raspberry pi based devices like Lantern Power Monitor can do a ridiculous number of channels for relatively little money
 
robinbanks said:
if you're interested in high levels of granularity there are some reasonably cost effective power monitoring solutions that put a CT clamp round eg every wire in your consumer unit.. Raspberry pi based devices like Lantern Power Monitor can do a ridiculous number of channels for relatively little money
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Not really, I was just pointing out how ridiculous Aveatry's above post was, in suggesting their supplier, might even be able to tell what they had on.
 
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