Who’s going to tell them that the answer is immigration?


We can fund the low income families, or we can penalise them by forcing them into criminality.
And therefore fund the justice system to deal with them and accommodate them. :rolleyes:

My preference is to maintain, even improve the safety net.

You're whistling in the wind: the wangers would rather keep doing the same things over and over expecting things to change.

Insanity defined.
 
You seemed to be arguing for a fully funded state pension

What does "fully funded" mean anyway, in this context?

Once asylum is granted though….Happy days eh?

Made for life! And then get all the relatives over. 'Look grandma, a house and 500 quid a week'.

If asylum is granted after due process i assume it's deserved.

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It's not just asylum, it depends on other factors, age, income, indefinite leave to remain visa, etc.
Asylum only grants temporary leave to remain.
No. Pension credit applies to those granted asylum as long as they are of pensionable age, obviously!
 
How many of pensionable age will be affected?

Here's the approximate numbers:
However, older refugees aged 65 and over make up a very small minority, typically accounting for approximately 1% to 2% of all asylum applicants and protection grants.
So about 1,500 granted ILR might be eligible to Pension Credit. :rolleyes:
But they have to be in UK for 5 years or more before they can claim.

And let's not forget the restrictions: limited to 4 weeks outside of UK.
 
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What does "fully funded" mean anyway, in this context?

Some sort of fund which pays the state pension out of past contributions rather than current ones. I was picking up on your Q108:

'Why must today's workers pay today's pensioners? Surely ones pension contributions should be invested for growth.'

And I was wondering whether such a scheme might work and what it might look like in practice.
 
So about 1,500 granted ILR might be eligible to Pension Credit. :rolleyes:
But they have to be in UK for 5 years or more before they can claim.

And let's not forget the restrictions: limited to 4 weeks outside of UK.
EVERY refugee granted asylum is a potential draw from the pension credit pot, if not now, then certainly in the future. I doubt if many of them will build up the required number of complete years NI subscriptions, do you? In any case, it’s not about immigrants. It’s about the work shy and feckless indigenous population that will be getting pension credit.
 
If asylum is granted after due process i assume it's deserved.
You’re assuming incorrectly. I take it you didn’t see all the programmes on the news/TV a few weeks ago where independent asylum 'advisors' were advising asylum seekers to lie about being gay? They were being coached and attended 'gay' meetings (where nobody was gay) to have photos taken to build up a cover story. Definitely not deserved.
 
You’re assuming incorrectly. I take it you didn’t see all the programmes on the news/TV a few weeks ago where independent asylum 'advisors' were advising asylum seekers to lie about being gay? They were being coached and attended 'gay' meetings (where nobody was gay) to have photos taken to build up a cover story. Definitely not deserved.

I don't share your obsession with goings on in the gay community.
 
I don't share your obsession with goings on in the gay community.
It had nothing whatsoever to do with the gay community. It’s not an obsession. It’s a fact that was big news not long ago. I don’t share your obsession of sticking my head in the sand when confronted with facts that don’t suit my narrative.

 
It’s not an obsession. It’s a fact that was big news not long ago. I don’t share your obsession of sticking my head in the sand when confronted with facts that don’t suit my narrative.
I face them all, regardless.

The truth is the right wang have become poisoned with a far right narrative that's determined to push through an extreme agenda under the guise of immigration.

If you're going to blame the lawyers for finding loopholes in the system then who's at fault?
 
It probably is, sadly. Unfortunately it's also unsustainable.

Current pensioners are like a mafia. Just keep handing the money over and nobody gets hurt.
They have electoral leverage because a greater proportion of them vote. They paid their stamps, and are funding their kids’ mortgages. Bloody ingrates.
 
What does "fully funded" mean anyway, in this context?



Made for life! And then get all the relatives over. 'Look grandma, a house and 500 quid a week'.



Mods: Please remove Odds's comment to the 'Jokes' forum.

I assume you're over here to make an attempt at closing down another thread.

Go ahead.

Make my day.
 
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