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Why does Poland get so much EU money ? Remainers answers please

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gasbanni, 29 May 2019.

  1. gasbanni

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    I worked with some Poles and they told me back in Poland some town centre apartments and virtually the same cost as some properties here.

    He showed me his family home photos ..very nice ........nothing looking third worldy looking ...I must go on Google earth and randomly pick out some towns to see what they look like.

    You remainers care to explain to me why Poland gets an inordinate am out from the EU ?
    Of course your in favour of tgd EU so I suppose you know,
     
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    We will prepare ourselves for your next thread:
    "Who Taught These Bloody Foreigners To Build Houses?"

    Define 'inordinate' in this context.

    My in favour of tgd EU is none of your business.
     
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    Poland is in the same position Ireland was in years ago.
    Before joining the EU Ireland's economy was struggling and it's infrastructure crumbling.
    Grants from the EU totalling £44billion transformed Ireland's economy , new bridges and roads were built.
    Billions of pounds of EU money is being poured into Poland and their economy is booming ,so much so that they have reduced their retirement age for workers to what it was in the UK before Tories raised it up to what it is now.
    The irony is that British workers in so called wealthy Britain have to work longer in order to fund early retirement for "poor Poles".
    The EU uses money raised in countries like the UK to encourage other countries to effectively sell their sovereignty in return for "EU" grants.
     
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    Yep, because they need it.
     
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    If there’s so much building and development going on in Poland, why are all their builders over here?
     
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    All? How many are here and how many are there?
    How many have swapped?
     
  7. gasbanni

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    I was excluding you I'm not interested in what you think. Also knowsnowt and Jonny boy, I was after serious remainers answers.
     
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    No remainers have offered any reason why Poland almost gets out of the EU what we pay in.

    Bright spark nowsnowt .....just been on Google earth randomly went in a couple of places to look at the street view aspect..........just random and very nice it looks too ....very nice houses ....This is what random views looked like.

    360 degrees looks in three places scattered about very idyllic rural setting with nice detached houses .....poverty stricken not from what I could see perhaps genius you can explain why Poland gets so much from the EU ....reasons are better than empty statements.
     
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    No answer as to why Poland appears to be the major beneficiary of the EU you should have saved yourself from the effort of typing vacuous comments.
     
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    A very basic explanation and I'm sure there are more.

    UK GDP per capita ~ $40k
    PL GDP per capita ~ $14k

    Prices (on common products) are more or less the same. As you can see, on average, the purchasing power of individuals participating in each economy is significantly different.

    Current economic model of the world is a consumer based economy. To grow consumption one way is to increase individual's purchasing power. That requires better wages paid by a stronger local economy supported by the right infrastructure (schools, roads, airports, ports etc etc). Contrary to many other "news", I believe the majority of the EU funds go in Poland into infrastructure with the aim then to support the growth of the local economy.

    It is the interest of each member state that, eventually, the EU state economies' are healthy and comparable, thus creating a sustainable common market. That means encouraging and incentivizing the least developed countries to develop.

    Now you will obviously ask why UK should pay into it. As above, it is our interest that there is a healthy common market, where individuals have purchasing power, and we, UK businesses, can sell and invest in those economies.

    I agree with you, Poland is definitely not a third world country. I strongly suggest you visit it yourself to experience it. Nevertheless it still has a lot to catchup to other more developed countries. With the right incentive they will, and over time their contribution to the EU budget will become positive ie. they become a net contributor.

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    The UK contributed £14.1 billion in 2016 and received half of that figure (£7 billion) back in EU investment and EU-funded projects. It is a similar story for most of the large economies in the EU. Source: European Commission data.

    On the flip side, places like Greece, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia receive substantially more than they pay in. I have been to all of those countries and it is clear the impact EU money has had on them. They are largely grateful for it.

    Obviously EU money is being used to try and develop the infrastructure economies of 'weaker' countries.

    The question is -- are we happy for Britain to be paying a lot of money into a project to help the economies of other countries? Given we only directly receive around half of what we put in, does the improvement work in other counties benefit us enough to be paying what we do?
     
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    A very interesting post

    Thanks Otto (y)(y)
     
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    A club where the rich members help out the poorer members doesnt seem such a bad club.

    Lots of Eastern Europe was pretty poor when it jouied the EU, it is now a thriving region.

    Politically it makes sense to make East Europe more like the West.

    Have a look at Moldova to see a poor ex Soviet country
     
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    Germany and France get a lot of Polands infrastructure projects, so there is a bit of a vested interest.

    Mind you hasnt Wales had quite a bit of EU money?
     
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